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<blockquote data-quote="Slothrop" data-source="post: 87899" data-attributes="member: 4707"><p>tie,</p><p> </p><p>Since you like to change facts to suit yourself, let's review what I actually said</p><p></p><p>Low and behold, the source goes to an op-ed written by a right-wing pundit quoting <strong>Heather MacDonald</strong>. It was not a piece written by the LA Times, any more than an Ann Coulter or Michelle Malkin column can be attributed to whatever newspaper they are published in. When one sources figures as coming from the LA Times, one should be able to prove it. An op-ed or letter to the editor is not the same thing.</p><p> My opinion, which I have stated, is to enforce the laws, but give those here a path towards citizenship. Don't break up families. Deport those who engage in a crime (other than the crime of being in America), Learn English, hold a job, stay out of trouble, and a path towards cictizenship should be made available. Never have I called for immediate citizenship or amnesty. Reagan tried that, and guess what? It didn't work!</p><p>You stated 12 million in S. California. That is a made up number. The rest of what you said makes no sense, what is 'asinging'? </p><p> </p><p>You see, I am for stronger enforcement of our borders, but that has to be funded. I am for punishing those who smuggle people across the border. I am for punishing employers that knowingly hire illegal workers, and punishing them in a way that would convince them not to do it again, ie: serious monetary fines, and perhaps mandatory jail time for repeat offenders. Give those already here a legal status enabling them to work and pay taxes, and give them a path towards citizenship in 5-6 years, providing the stay out of trouble, hold a job, and learn English. America was and continues to be built by immigrants chasing the American Dream, that is what this country was founded on. Sealing the borders is not an option, and is impossible, in any case. Do you have any real ideas? Do you agree with what Bush has privately told our lawmakers his intentions are?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Slothrop, post: 87899, member: 4707"] tie, Since you like to change facts to suit yourself, let's review what I actually said Low and behold, the source goes to an op-ed written by a right-wing pundit quoting [B]Heather MacDonald[/B]. It was not a piece written by the LA Times, any more than an Ann Coulter or Michelle Malkin column can be attributed to whatever newspaper they are published in. When one sources figures as coming from the LA Times, one should be able to prove it. An op-ed or letter to the editor is not the same thing. My opinion, which I have stated, is to enforce the laws, but give those here a path towards citizenship. Don't break up families. Deport those who engage in a crime (other than the crime of being in America), Learn English, hold a job, stay out of trouble, and a path towards cictizenship should be made available. Never have I called for immediate citizenship or amnesty. Reagan tried that, and guess what? It didn't work! You stated 12 million in S. California. That is a made up number. The rest of what you said makes no sense, what is 'asinging'? You see, I am for stronger enforcement of our borders, but that has to be funded. I am for punishing those who smuggle people across the border. I am for punishing employers that knowingly hire illegal workers, and punishing them in a way that would convince them not to do it again, ie: serious monetary fines, and perhaps mandatory jail time for repeat offenders. Give those already here a legal status enabling them to work and pay taxes, and give them a path towards citizenship in 5-6 years, providing the stay out of trouble, hold a job, and learn English. America was and continues to be built by immigrants chasing the American Dream, that is what this country was founded on. Sealing the borders is not an option, and is impossible, in any case. Do you have any real ideas? Do you agree with what Bush has privately told our lawmakers his intentions are? [/QUOTE]
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