The negotiation scam

[FedGT]

So you spent the whole day listening to crap like how racist we are as a country and socialism rules and those damn rich republicans. What a waste of a day.

You lose more and more credibility on every one of your posts. If you are going to post maybe look into what it is. Stocks and market info, I am a stock trader as well as a contractor.
Yeah that's right, a lot of us are businessmen that are a lot smarter than you think.

 

[FedGT]

Also, rich republicans???
So democrats and independents running for office aren't just as well off most of the time?? You sound like a tool of the media with those comments. I guess you should go back to reading your daily "rise up" blogs for your world news information

 

[TeamLift]

You lose more and more credibility on every one of your posts. If you are going to post maybe look into what it is. Stocks and market info, I am a stock trader as well as a contractor.
Yeah that's right, a lot of us are businessmen that are a lot smarter than you think.

Trading stocks does not make you smart, lots of people lose big time, besides you did not mention that you were watching the stock market at all.

 

[TeamLift]

Also, rich republicans???
So democrats and independents running for office aren't just as well off most of the time?? You sound like a tool of the media with those comments. I guess you should go back to reading your daily "rise up" blogs for your world news information

That's all that left wing station talks about, and no they aren't as well off, Mitt Romney ruled over anyone who ran against him and Donald Trump needs no cash from anyone, your girl Hillary will need big corporate money to match the individual Republican money pouring in to Jeb and the rest of the field, in fact every republican running has at least one billionaire behind him, some have several. That's why harry Reid tried to limit the amount a person could give to campaigns, he knows the democrats are no match for the war chest on the other side.

 

[FedGT]

Trading stocks does not make you smart, lots of people lose big time, besides you did not mention that you were watching the stock market at all.

No I didn't but if you look into what is on CNBC 6:00am- 5:00pm you would know that it is all market.
No it doesn't mean your smart if you are in the market but I am not going to tell you what my ROI is, there are many of us that are plenty intelligent and make decent income on both stocks and FedEx.
Turn the stories how you want but still goes into you automatically jumping on me about something that has no bearing.
I am not going to put this into politics, too many threads go that way and I really don't care what others opinions are, but it is great that you pick the two billionaire republicans that have received the most camera time over the past couple years. Congrats on that one.

 

[TeamLift]

You lose more and more credibility on every one of your posts. If you are going to post maybe look into what it is. Stocks and market info, I am a stock trader as well as a contractor.
Yeah that's right, a lot of us are businessmen that are a lot smarter than you think.

Drivers can be business men as well, my best friend at work is also a trader, has made big money trading, in fact uses FedEx to help him decide what stocks to purchase by watching what is coming down the line in big quantities. He can put up with the crap at work because its not his main source of income. He has the big money to put in to get the big return.

 

[FedGT]

Drivers can be business men as well, my best friend at work is also a trader, has made big money trading, in fact uses FedEx to help him decide what stocks to purchase by watching what is coming down the line in big quantities. He can put up with the crap at work because its not his main source of income. He has the big money to put in to get the big return.

Good for him I never said they aren't. Would you please start reading what is being said before you defend something.

Hahahaha!! If that is true about your friend he has a completely ridiculous system. Watching a few packages turn into a trend in a segregated portion of a city (his route) is no where close to something you can scale and extrapolate out to millions or billions of dollars worth of product. I had 12 target boxes on my truck on Friday up from 2 last week, BUY BUY BUY!!!!!

 

[TeamLift]

Unrealistic, point of view (not surprised) but you can call what ever you want.

Lunch breaks, yeah 90% of the time all of my employees have between 30 min to an hour of down time before pickups.

Overtime- they work 9 hours a day, take out the hour lunch break and no overtime is warranted.

After 6 months every employee gets 5 days PTO, more if you have been with me for over two years.

Wages close to UPS. Absolutely not and I have never once claimed I did. This job does not warrant that kind of money by any figment of the imagination. If you have a problem with that don't be upset with FedEx be upset with the trucking industry. Any and every add I see about delivery whether it be water, packages, parts, mail, moving, industrial supplies, etc, that does not require a CDL is paid between 8-12.50 an hour where I live.
I beat the hell out of that.

Why does UPS job warrant it then, they don't all work that hard, but get the cash anyway, those other delivery jobs you mentioned don't do half the deliveries we do, typical contractor trying to make it sound better that what it is, drivers must make about 600.00 to 650.00 week, wow

 

[TeamLift]

Good for him I never said they aren't. Would you please start reading what is being said before you defend something.

Hahahaha!! If that is true about your friend he has a completely ridiculous system. Watching a few packages turn into a trend in a segregated portion of a city (his route) is no where close to something you can scale and extrapolate out to millions or billions of dollars worth of product. I had 12 target boxes on my truck on Friday up from 2 last week, BUY BUY BUY!!!!!

I wouldn't make fun of him, he lives in a 4300 square foot house, all brick and besides the packages coming down just gives him ideas to look at further, trust me you can't touch his wealth, he can lose more in the stock market than you can afford to put in and still be way ahead, he was rich before becoming a driver.

 

[It will be fine]

I wouldn't make fun of him, he lives in a 4300 square foot house, all brick and besides the packages coming down just gives him ideas to look at further, trust me you can't touch his wealth, he can lose more in the stock market than you can afford to put in and still be way ahead, he was rich before becoming a driver.

No one drives for Ground because they just love the work. To assert that someone is independently wealthy and still slinging boxes is absurd.

 

[FedGT]

Why does UPS job warrant it then, they don't all work that hard, but get the cash anyway, those other delivery jobs you mentioned don't do half the deliveries we do, typical contractor trying to make it sound better that what it is, drivers must make about 600.00 to 650.00 week, wow

I wouldn't make fun of him, he lives in a 4300 square foot house, all brick and besides the packages coming down just gives him ideas to look at further, trust me you can't touch his wealth, he can lose more in the stock market than you can afford to put in and still be way ahead, he was rich before becoming a driver.

Like I said I am done with you both these comments along with everything else you spew is pure ignorance and nonsense. The wealth you speak of contradicts anyone driving for a living. You have zero credibility, don't have the slightest understanding of what we do, have zero idea of how much I am worth (your most ignorant comment of all) saying I'm not even close to his wealth, really you honestly bring nothing to the table on this forum. It takes a lot for me to ignore someone but you have earned the first button. Hopefully you can start debating and actually looking into subjects before attacking off no basis in the near future.

 

[TeamLift]

No one drives for Ground because they just love the work. To assert that someone is independently wealthy and still slinging boxes is absurd.

No, whats absurd is a contractor with any money that stays at FedEx, I know this guy really well, know what he has in investments and cash, used to be a contractor, looking to get out but has a pie route. Does not work at ground, HD, and will not sit around and live off his cash when he can work till he finds what he really wants. Gets off at 1.00 or so everyday, so why not ? House just sold for 400 thousand this week, not too shabby in my opinion.

 

[instiches]

Nothing you are saying makes sense. Absolutely nothing. If he is half as intelligent as you are making him out to be, he could find a better paying and less strenuous job.

 

[TeamLift]

Like I said I am done with you both these comments along with everything else you spew is pure ignorance and nonsense. The wealth you speak of contradicts anyone driving for a living. You have zero credibility, don't have the slightest understanding of what we do, have zero idea of how much I am worth (your most ignorant comment of all) saying I'm not even close to his wealth, really you honestly bring nothing to the table on this forum. It takes a lot for me to ignore someone but you have earned the first button. Hopefully you can start debating and actually looking into subjects before attacking off no basis in the near future.

Nothing you are saying makes sense. Absolutely nothing. If he is half as intelligent as you are making him out to be, he could find a better paying and less strenuous job.

So according to you all drivers are poor and can't do any better, people with money would never work here, this guy has it pretty good, when a contractor called him wanting him to come back he said, ok, I will only run this gravy route, for this much money, and any time I need off for a golf tournament, I'm taking it. Used to be in the insurance business, very successful, got all the free trips every year, but in case you haven't noticed, times suck right now, if you lost your job tomorrow where would you get a job ? Sometimes the familiar is the easiest to do even if you don't like it anymore. Your comment that if he was smart he would get a better job, Means your admitting your a destined to be a lifer at FedEx. Why don't you get a better paying less strenuous job, hell why doesn't everybody on this site do that ? His route is basically 3 or 4 developments and a couple of side roads and he's done by 1.00 or 1.30. Not that strenuous at all.

 

[TeamLift]

You really buy that line? You think FedEx is just transitioningto ISP and they believe it too will be challenged? I suggest you reach out to one of 5he law firms and ask them why they aren't challenging the ISP model. In fact, I'd be surprised if the courts would allow them to switch to another contracting model without having some oversight on the deal.

In early October, the Kansas Supreme Court ruled that FedEx’s contractors, even when they employ drivers for other routes, are effectively FedEx employees themselves — which means their employees may be, too. “I think FedEx was just dealt a body blow by the Kansas Supreme Court,” says Richard Reibstein of Pepper Hamilton, who specializes in independent contracting. “Basically the court is saying that ‘the argument that you’re an independent business when you have more than one route, we don’t buy it.’ And that was a surprise. Here's a challenge to the new isp.

 

[Crozz]

In early October, the Kansas Supreme Court ruled that FedEx’s contractors, even when they employ drivers for other routes, are effectively FedEx employees themselves — which means their employees may be, too. “I think FedEx was just dealt a body blow by the Kansas Supreme Court,” says Richard Reibstein of Pepper Hamilton, who specializes in independent contracting. “Basically the court is saying that ‘the argument that you’re an independent business when you have more than one route, we don’t buy it.’ And that was a surprise. Here's a challenge to the new isp.

Kansas isn't in ISP so not sure what your argument is. The Kansas lawsuit is about single van contractors saying they are employees to fedex not contractors. ISP is Transition to do business with one entity in a service area of many routes.

 

[instiches]

Your comment that if he was smart he would get a better job, Means your admitting your a destined to be a lifer at FedEx. Why don't you get a better paying less strenuous job, hell why doesn't everybody on this site do that ? His route is basically 3 or 4 developments and a couple of side roads and he's done by 1.00 or 1.30. Not that strenuous at all.

No, I'm ok with my current set up.

 

[STFXG]

In early October, the Kansas Supreme Court ruled that FedEx’s contractors, even when they employ drivers for other routes, are effectively FedEx employees themselves — which means their employees may be, too. “I think FedEx was just dealt a body blow by the Kansas Supreme Court,” says Richard Reibstein of Pepper Hamilton, who specializes in independent contracting. “Basically the court is saying that ‘the argument that you’re an independent business when you have more than one route, we don’t buy it.’ And that was a surprise. Here's a challenge to the new isp.

This is part of the multi-district litigation. It covers up until 2007. Can't wait for my payout

 

[Route 66]

No it doesn't mean your smart if you are in the market....

That'd be "you're smart".

 

[bbsam]

In early October, the Kansas Supreme Court ruled that FedEx’s contractors, even when they employ drivers for other routes, are effectively FedEx employees themselves — which means their employees may be, too. “I think FedEx was just dealt a body blow by the Kansas Supreme Court,” says Richard Reibstein of Pepper Hamilton, who specializes in independent contracting. “Basically the court is saying that ‘the argument that you’re an independent business when you have more than one route, we don’t buy it.’ And that was a surprise. Here's a challenge to the new isp.

That's not a challenge to ISP. That's a ruling on appeal from an IC model.