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<blockquote data-quote="wkmac" data-source="post: 1160059" data-attributes="member: 2189"><p>I would tend to agree that capitalism as we know it now has failed and you could argue it always has when you don't conflate capitalism with the idea of free markets or the better term freed markets. To that ends I have no problem with the term anti-capitalist because under the current model, I would be one. What we have is a type Mussolini/fascist economic model built for a global footprint as opposed to a purely national model. It's then blended with an anglo american hybrid free trade mercantilism and thus we have statist capitalism hidden behind the rhetoric of being free market. It's neither free nor markets to begin with.</p><p></p><p> This system only works with a large gov't structure that is capable of protecting cartels, privilege and invoking interventions at any turn in order to externalize costs on behalf of the monied and ruling class and shift down onto the working and lower managerial class along with the poor. The options are to crush it all, not likely, or begin to plan and organize alternatives and as the existing models collapse, and they will, you just tunnel under or around them and keep rolling. From markets to even alternative currencies. Cooperatives, worker owned/worker run, all these ideas can have a go. Just look at the success of <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mondragon_Corporation" target="_blank"><span style="color: #ff0000">Mondragon</span></a>. </p><p></p><p>I won't say you'll like this below but I suspect you'll appreciate it on the basis that it opens the door to float ideas towards the ends of a new and dynamic system. I'm all for a big table that would allow that potential. <a href="http://radgeek.com/gt/2011/10/Markets-Not-Capitalism-2011-Chartier-and-Johnson.pdf" target="_blank"><span style="color: #ff0000">Markets, Not Capitalism</span></a>, because anarchists are opposed to copyright (gov't privilege)the book is open source on the internet and Charles Johnson's piece, as Gary sez, is a great read. The interview with Gary Chartier thanks to Reason is excellent.</p><p></p><p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdrBeBwHenk" target="_blank">"Markets Not Capitalism," Says Professor Gary Chartier - YouTube</a></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="wkmac, post: 1160059, member: 2189"] I would tend to agree that capitalism as we know it now has failed and you could argue it always has when you don't conflate capitalism with the idea of free markets or the better term freed markets. To that ends I have no problem with the term anti-capitalist because under the current model, I would be one. What we have is a type Mussolini/fascist economic model built for a global footprint as opposed to a purely national model. It's then blended with an anglo american hybrid free trade mercantilism and thus we have statist capitalism hidden behind the rhetoric of being free market. It's neither free nor markets to begin with. This system only works with a large gov't structure that is capable of protecting cartels, privilege and invoking interventions at any turn in order to externalize costs on behalf of the monied and ruling class and shift down onto the working and lower managerial class along with the poor. The options are to crush it all, not likely, or begin to plan and organize alternatives and as the existing models collapse, and they will, you just tunnel under or around them and keep rolling. From markets to even alternative currencies. Cooperatives, worker owned/worker run, all these ideas can have a go. Just look at the success of [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mondragon_Corporation"][COLOR=#ff0000]Mondragon[/COLOR][/URL]. I won't say you'll like this below but I suspect you'll appreciate it on the basis that it opens the door to float ideas towards the ends of a new and dynamic system. I'm all for a big table that would allow that potential. [URL="http://radgeek.com/gt/2011/10/Markets-Not-Capitalism-2011-Chartier-and-Johnson.pdf"][COLOR=#ff0000]Markets, Not Capitalism[/COLOR][/URL], because anarchists are opposed to copyright (gov't privilege)the book is open source on the internet and Charles Johnson's piece, as Gary sez, is a great read. The interview with Gary Chartier thanks to Reason is excellent. [URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdrBeBwHenk"]"Markets Not Capitalism," Says Professor Gary Chartier - YouTube[/URL] [/QUOTE]
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