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The Right To Work, Cecil B. Demille, circa 1948'
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<blockquote data-quote="tieguy" data-source="post: 662818" data-attributes="member: 1912"><p><span style="color: blue">I have mixed feelings on the subject. </span></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: #0000ff">I somewhat agree with your membership has its privledges argument. I'm also not sure a union can stay financially viable if all states were right to work. </span></p><p><span style="color: #0000ff">At the same time I think a union has to work harder in a right to work state to gain your support.</span></p><p><span style="color: #0000ff">I've heard the arguments that you feel its your union but I don't see the democratic process working as well in a closed shop. I've seen too many fresh faces try to unseat entrenched incumbants and it does not seem to work too well. You almost need a guy like 804's going out of his way to piss the members off before an incumbant president gets voted out.</span></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: #0000ff">Someday you'll get a BA who understands business and finance. He'll lock in profit sharing from the company for his local and he'll bring the right guys in to invest the money. When he does he'll blow away any other locals in retirement plan assets and health care. He'll inovate the union relationship away from the "cry and whine the company screwed me" games to a real union that provides its members with true bang for the buck. The company pays too much to the union for you guys to get the pittance you get in return.</span></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: #0000ff">There are locals out there that have done very well and could probably be models.</span></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: #0000ff">I think the unions chase too much that does them no good and cost them money. All the nickle and dime grievances that cost the locals and do not gain them any additional revenue. I really question whether all the supervisor working grievances protect jobs. I think those grievances end up costing the union a lot of money without any gain. </span></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: #0000ff">So the thread started with what was basically an argument on right to work versus right to close a shop. I think the unions could do so much more then they do now where it would not be an issue. </span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="tieguy, post: 662818, member: 1912"] [COLOR=blue]I have mixed feelings on the subject. [/COLOR] [COLOR=#0000ff][/COLOR] [COLOR=#0000ff]I somewhat agree with your membership has its privledges argument. I'm also not sure a union can stay financially viable if all states were right to work. [/COLOR] [COLOR=#0000ff]At the same time I think a union has to work harder in a right to work state to gain your support.[/COLOR] [COLOR=#0000ff]I've heard the arguments that you feel its your union but I don't see the democratic process working as well in a closed shop. I've seen too many fresh faces try to unseat entrenched incumbants and it does not seem to work too well. You almost need a guy like 804's going out of his way to piss the members off before an incumbant president gets voted out.[/COLOR] [COLOR=#0000ff][/COLOR] [COLOR=#0000ff]Someday you'll get a BA who understands business and finance. He'll lock in profit sharing from the company for his local and he'll bring the right guys in to invest the money. When he does he'll blow away any other locals in retirement plan assets and health care. He'll inovate the union relationship away from the "cry and whine the company screwed me" games to a real union that provides its members with true bang for the buck. The company pays too much to the union for you guys to get the pittance you get in return.[/COLOR] [COLOR=#0000ff][/COLOR] [COLOR=#0000ff]There are locals out there that have done very well and could probably be models.[/COLOR] [COLOR=#0000ff][/COLOR] [COLOR=#0000ff]I think the unions chase too much that does them no good and cost them money. All the nickle and dime grievances that cost the locals and do not gain them any additional revenue. I really question whether all the supervisor working grievances protect jobs. I think those grievances end up costing the union a lot of money without any gain. [/COLOR] [COLOR=#0000ff][/COLOR] [COLOR=#0000ff]So the thread started with what was basically an argument on right to work versus right to close a shop. I think the unions could do so much more then they do now where it would not be an issue. [/COLOR] [/QUOTE]
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