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<blockquote data-quote="&#039;Lord Brown&#039;s bidding&#039;" data-source="post: 1095407" data-attributes="member: 32753"><p>OP, you start your post talking about we should not judge each others motives and opinions, but then later demand everyone have a single POV when it comes to enforcing various portions of the contract. Not everyone wants or needs those portions, and should not be made to do something detrimental to their life-friends, family, little-leaguers counting on their coach, etc. I am not the union, for I am not my bargaining agent, just as Scott Boras and his clients are not one.</p><p></p><p>Everyone should be careful about trying to make their viewpoints of UPS and the union EVERYONE else's; that right there will shut down a lot of people who might otherwise support the cause; no one likes to be told what to do, espepecially when they aren't directly paid for it (the Union fights for our pay, but they do not pay us; in fact it is the other way around).</p><p></p><p>A senior driver in poor shape needs help with over-70's; a young driver just needs to get home to his family. Sure, not lifting over 70's by himself can extend his career, so inform him of that. If he chooses to disagree, take your own counsel and don't look down on him or tell him or tell him to "Grow a pair and take a stand!" It may not be his stand because he may feel like it is not in his best interests at the moment. Recognise, however, that provision is in the contract because enough members support it; it won't be removed because some choose not to. There are other issues like this, most notably taking ones lunch between the 3-5 be, IF AT ALL (I have read over the portion of the contract dealing with this; how the language is worded is interesting. In a nutshell, if PRACTICAL a lunch is to be taken between between those hours, but what's "practical" vs not is not specified. In additional, UPS can compel a worker to take his lunch-and when-as well as work through his lunch, but he must be compensated; however, no where does it,state a worker MUST TAKE HIS LUNCH (unless the company compels him.) So a driver has THE RIGHT to skip his lunch if he so chooses; he will not get paid for it, however, unless UPS compels him to. A driver may think sacrificing $10k a year is worth seeing his family, and be just fine with $65k-$72k he'd make. Our lunches are not in danger, and all the stuff-'not shorting the unborn', even being unfairly compared to a driver skipping his lunch if it can be proven-in the end is one's personal choices and views.</p><p></p><p>For the record, I take my lunch, and don't nor wouldn't encourage others not to. But I find it just as courageous some one would go the path not taken to be with his loved ones as I do those who fight for the rights.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="'Lord Brown's bidding', post: 1095407, member: 32753"] OP, you start your post talking about we should not judge each others motives and opinions, but then later demand everyone have a single POV when it comes to enforcing various portions of the contract. Not everyone wants or needs those portions, and should not be made to do something detrimental to their life-friends, family, little-leaguers counting on their coach, etc. I am not the union, for I am not my bargaining agent, just as Scott Boras and his clients are not one. Everyone should be careful about trying to make their viewpoints of UPS and the union EVERYONE else's; that right there will shut down a lot of people who might otherwise support the cause; no one likes to be told what to do, espepecially when they aren't directly paid for it (the Union fights for our pay, but they do not pay us; in fact it is the other way around). A senior driver in poor shape needs help with over-70's; a young driver just needs to get home to his family. Sure, not lifting over 70's by himself can extend his career, so inform him of that. If he chooses to disagree, take your own counsel and don't look down on him or tell him or tell him to "Grow a pair and take a stand!" It may not be his stand because he may feel like it is not in his best interests at the moment. Recognise, however, that provision is in the contract because enough members support it; it won't be removed because some choose not to. There are other issues like this, most notably taking ones lunch between the 3-5 be, IF AT ALL (I have read over the portion of the contract dealing with this; how the language is worded is interesting. In a nutshell, if PRACTICAL a lunch is to be taken between between those hours, but what's "practical" vs not is not specified. In additional, UPS can compel a worker to take his lunch-and when-as well as work through his lunch, but he must be compensated; however, no where does it,state a worker MUST TAKE HIS LUNCH (unless the company compels him.) So a driver has THE RIGHT to skip his lunch if he so chooses; he will not get paid for it, however, unless UPS compels him to. A driver may think sacrificing $10k a year is worth seeing his family, and be just fine with $65k-$72k he'd make. Our lunches are not in danger, and all the stuff-'not shorting the unborn', even being unfairly compared to a driver skipping his lunch if it can be proven-in the end is one's personal choices and views. For the record, I take my lunch, and don't nor wouldn't encourage others not to. But I find it just as courageous some one would go the path not taken to be with his loved ones as I do those who fight for the rights. [/QUOTE]
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