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<blockquote data-quote="&#039;Lord Brown&#039;s bidding&#039;" data-source="post: 1095457" data-attributes="member: 32753"><p>This is incorrect. Pensions are/were more of a "thank-you" rather than reward. They are from a different time, when employees were viewed as family, and one-a boss or owner who had a personal relationship with his employees, and felt responsible to them as one might am elderly family member. Even in larger settings where such personal relationships were not possible those at the head often came up in similar situations, and an impression was made on them that they applied.</p><p></p><p>Nowadays the system is different. Nobody WANTS to work for one company anymore, or at least it seems that way. People are more independent, wanting to do what best fits them and their vision of how theor life works out. Rather than look for "jobs" they speak of "careers"-which are more broader in scope and can involve working with many different "jobs" w companies. They are more educated, including in financual matters, and want to have more say than a pension, or even a 401k can offer sometimes. They are planning to take care of themselves, and don't need their company to offer to take care of them.</p><p></p><p> in additional, those who are in charge aren't as exposed to other types/viewpoints as the CEOs of the times when pensions became popular, thus they cannot relate. They feel everyone can get an education and do what they do, and start their own/be appointed to run someone else's co, and if not well, life's unfair. Their job is to make money-not products, or offer services; they aren't always passionate about their fields, and thus have no connection to those who work for them. Thus, a pension is just an expense to hold them back from doing their jobs of making money-and an expense more and more are not very concerned about, in their independence. Everyone would like a pension just as everyone hopes social security will be there;they just aren't banking (pun intended) on it.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="'Lord Brown's bidding', post: 1095457, member: 32753"] This is incorrect. Pensions are/were more of a "thank-you" rather than reward. They are from a different time, when employees were viewed as family, and one-a boss or owner who had a personal relationship with his employees, and felt responsible to them as one might am elderly family member. Even in larger settings where such personal relationships were not possible those at the head often came up in similar situations, and an impression was made on them that they applied. Nowadays the system is different. Nobody WANTS to work for one company anymore, or at least it seems that way. People are more independent, wanting to do what best fits them and their vision of how theor life works out. Rather than look for "jobs" they speak of "careers"-which are more broader in scope and can involve working with many different "jobs" w companies. They are more educated, including in financual matters, and want to have more say than a pension, or even a 401k can offer sometimes. They are planning to take care of themselves, and don't need their company to offer to take care of them. in additional, those who are in charge aren't as exposed to other types/viewpoints as the CEOs of the times when pensions became popular, thus they cannot relate. They feel everyone can get an education and do what they do, and start their own/be appointed to run someone else's co, and if not well, life's unfair. Their job is to make money-not products, or offer services; they aren't always passionate about their fields, and thus have no connection to those who work for them. Thus, a pension is just an expense to hold them back from doing their jobs of making money-and an expense more and more are not very concerned about, in their independence. Everyone would like a pension just as everyone hopes social security will be there;they just aren't banking (pun intended) on it. [/QUOTE]
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