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<blockquote data-quote="hypocrisy" data-source="post: 931046" data-attributes="member: 9500"><p><span style="color: #0000cd"></span></p><p><span style="color: #0000cd">I like that you are facing facts, then assume that just because there is an opposing view yours is correct. One fact you can always count on is that no matter what the subject, someone will raise a contrarian view. Then you go on to assume that laws can in no way affect Union membership, ignoring the fact that Government passes laws every day that influence public behavior. I think it was Hillary that said they would use the law to 'nudge' people into choosing the preferred course of action. It's been going on for a long time before Hillary came out and said it.</span></p><p><span style="color: #0000cd"></span><span style="color: #0000ff"></span></p><p><span style="color: #0000ff">The Teamsters aren't Socialists. Never have been, never will be. </span></p><p><span style="color: #0000ff"></span><span style="color: #0000ff"></span></p><p><span style="color: #0000ff">It's OK, I understand. I used to have many of the same feelings you did. All I knew about Unions was what they railed about on Talk Radio and the mobbed up movie versions. The truth was quite a bit different. Sure, the Teamsters support Democrats today (more than they should IMO), but in the past they were quite Republican. Just like the farmer who needs his fields plowed must treat his horses well, the horses can't kick the farmer when he puts on the yoke or it's off to the glue factory (and the Teamsters just make sure that farmer is generous with the apples). It's not conspiring socialist talk in the Union halls, it's realism about what is going to fly and what won't. Democrats may pander to Union's but most turn around and stab us in the back, such as with the insane environmental regulations that strangle jobs, good Union jobs. </span></p><p><span style="color: #0000ff"></span><span style="color: #0000ff"></span></p><p><span style="color: #0000ff">Perhaps it's time, since Big Business opened the door, for us to step up our PAC money. Perhaps we can have as much or more influence over politicians as business does. Politicians, being what they are, will 'nuance' their positions as necessary to ensure their continued employment. If Union members would participate we could easily influence where our money goes. I'd be more than welcoming to some Republicans that, while not kowtowing to labor, would at least recognize our strength and show us some respect. Hell, maybe then I could make more money to buy even more guns and rest assured I could keep them. </span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="hypocrisy, post: 931046, member: 9500"] [COLOR=#0000cd] I like that you are facing facts, then assume that just because there is an opposing view yours is correct. One fact you can always count on is that no matter what the subject, someone will raise a contrarian view. Then you go on to assume that laws can in no way affect Union membership, ignoring the fact that Government passes laws every day that influence public behavior. I think it was Hillary that said they would use the law to 'nudge' people into choosing the preferred course of action. It's been going on for a long time before Hillary came out and said it. [/COLOR][COLOR=#0000ff] The Teamsters aren't Socialists. Never have been, never will be. [/COLOR][COLOR=#0000ff] It's OK, I understand. I used to have many of the same feelings you did. All I knew about Unions was what they railed about on Talk Radio and the mobbed up movie versions. The truth was quite a bit different. Sure, the Teamsters support Democrats today (more than they should IMO), but in the past they were quite Republican. Just like the farmer who needs his fields plowed must treat his horses well, the horses can't kick the farmer when he puts on the yoke or it's off to the glue factory (and the Teamsters just make sure that farmer is generous with the apples). It's not conspiring socialist talk in the Union halls, it's realism about what is going to fly and what won't. Democrats may pander to Union's but most turn around and stab us in the back, such as with the insane environmental regulations that strangle jobs, good Union jobs. [/COLOR][COLOR=#0000ff] Perhaps it's time, since Big Business opened the door, for us to step up our PAC money. Perhaps we can have as much or more influence over politicians as business does. Politicians, being what they are, will 'nuance' their positions as necessary to ensure their continued employment. If Union members would participate we could easily influence where our money goes. I'd be more than welcoming to some Republicans that, while not kowtowing to labor, would at least recognize our strength and show us some respect. Hell, maybe then I could make more money to buy even more guns and rest assured I could keep them. [/COLOR] [/QUOTE]
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