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<blockquote data-quote="PobreCarlos" data-source="post: 936521" data-attributes="member: 16651"><p>My Goodness, the "executive director of the building trades union in Indiana" wouldn't have a reason to shade the truth on such matters, would he? [smile] My guess is that he's comparing NON-union construction in Oklahoma with the limited UNION construction going on in Indiana....of which there's rather little outside of government-subsidized projects (most of which are Federally mandated; not neccessarily the result of State decision). And right now the guy is scared out of his wits that "union wages" will, in the future, be paid to even FEWER than the small minority that's currently collecting them Remember, he and his tried to get a rider to the Indiana RTW legislation (which, with such a rider, his union group would support!) which specified, I believe, that current union contractors - and current union contractors alone! - would be excluded from its provisions. His fellow unionists, under the banner of the AFL-CIO, refused to go along with that plan of course.</p><p></p><p>Actually, most of the guys I see building houses and such in Indiana - and in the [prior] RTW states as well - are ALL apparently being paid at about the same level. And, granted, most of those wages aren't very high.....nor are construction workers being employed in vast numbers at ANY level of compensation today. In addition, a large junk of the workers on the jobs I've seen appeared to be immigrants....and, anecdotally, having seen groups of them gather around one of their party to admire his "green card", it would appear many of them were "illegal" as well. That seems to be a much GREATER factor in construction jobs (and wages) today than any relatively "rtw" issues.</p><p></p><p>That said, it might be remembered that Indianapolis recently ranked first in the list of the nation's largest cities in terms of "affordability". That index primarily concerned itself with the ratio between wages and the cost of housing. With that in mind (and being SOMEWHAT familiar with construction wages in other RTW states as well), I seriously doubt that RTW is near the issue in terms of wages as the very "boom and bust" nature of the industry itself. For example, note that wages are higher than those of BOTH states in RTW locales like North Dakota, where the industry is booming.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="PobreCarlos, post: 936521, member: 16651"] My Goodness, the "executive director of the building trades union in Indiana" wouldn't have a reason to shade the truth on such matters, would he? [smile] My guess is that he's comparing NON-union construction in Oklahoma with the limited UNION construction going on in Indiana....of which there's rather little outside of government-subsidized projects (most of which are Federally mandated; not neccessarily the result of State decision). And right now the guy is scared out of his wits that "union wages" will, in the future, be paid to even FEWER than the small minority that's currently collecting them Remember, he and his tried to get a rider to the Indiana RTW legislation (which, with such a rider, his union group would support!) which specified, I believe, that current union contractors - and current union contractors alone! - would be excluded from its provisions. His fellow unionists, under the banner of the AFL-CIO, refused to go along with that plan of course. Actually, most of the guys I see building houses and such in Indiana - and in the [prior] RTW states as well - are ALL apparently being paid at about the same level. And, granted, most of those wages aren't very high.....nor are construction workers being employed in vast numbers at ANY level of compensation today. In addition, a large junk of the workers on the jobs I've seen appeared to be immigrants....and, anecdotally, having seen groups of them gather around one of their party to admire his "green card", it would appear many of them were "illegal" as well. That seems to be a much GREATER factor in construction jobs (and wages) today than any relatively "rtw" issues. That said, it might be remembered that Indianapolis recently ranked first in the list of the nation's largest cities in terms of "affordability". That index primarily concerned itself with the ratio between wages and the cost of housing. With that in mind (and being SOMEWHAT familiar with construction wages in other RTW states as well), I seriously doubt that RTW is near the issue in terms of wages as the very "boom and bust" nature of the industry itself. For example, note that wages are higher than those of BOTH states in RTW locales like North Dakota, where the industry is booming. [/QUOTE]
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