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The truth about the new UPS/IBT pension plan
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<blockquote data-quote="TheVoice" data-source="post: 262698" data-attributes="member: 12538"><p><span style="font-family: 'Book Antiqua'"><span style="font-size: 12px">I think it’s interesting as well that there is the number people voicing their concerns about the tentative contract. I to, even as a NO voter, ask the question, <em>where the hell were you when the surveys were being sent to your house, where were you when the elections happened?</em> A lot of you are right when you say we asked for it when the surveys came out, because that is what the majority of you wanted the focus on, health care and pensions…therefore don’t be critical of your representatives of doing just that. </span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Book Antiqua'"><span style="font-size: 12px">I think clearly any majority percentage of people that have a problem with this contract, will be equally comparable to the percentage that didn’t send their survey in, or didn’t vote for the General President election.</span></span></p><p></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Book Antiqua'"><span style="font-size: 12px">I think it might have been a wake up call for a lot of those people that don’t get involved, or get involved to late. People that just sit back being social-loafers and letting things come as they may, letting everyone else govern the collective all with the limited turn out in votes and participation of surveys, or just general participation at all. Then once things don’t go the way you want them, you say, <em>hey wait a minute, this isn’t cool</em>.</span></span></p><p></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Book Antiqua'">So in the end, I would have to agree with a lot of my counterparts when they say, that’s what you get. </span></span></p><p></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Book Antiqua'">Also, I think that it is very unique time right now for the labor movement. Not enough has been done to educate the younger ranks on the importance of involvement. But the blame is not on the old guard alone; the younger guys need to be more autonomous in their commitment to the future of organized labor (and this is not just in the IBT, but in Labor across the board). </span></span></p><p></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Book Antiqua'"><span style="font-size: 12px">With reference to the division between the old guard and the new guard…its almost as if we are on the Titanic and the old guard is leaving on life-rafts and we are left on the ship polishing the brass. Maybe that’s not the best metaphor. But, I think most of you might get my point.</span></span></p><p></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Book Antiqua'"><span style="font-size: 12px">(and yes, of course, there are exceptions to the rules in everything I have said).</span></span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="TheVoice, post: 262698, member: 12538"] [FONT=Book Antiqua][SIZE=3]I think it’s interesting as well that there is the number people voicing their concerns about the tentative contract. I to, even as a NO voter, ask the question, [I]where the hell were you when the surveys were being sent to your house, where were you when the elections happened?[/I] A lot of you are right when you say we asked for it when the surveys came out, because that is what the majority of you wanted the focus on, health care and pensions…therefore don’t be critical of your representatives of doing just that. [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Book Antiqua][/FONT] [FONT=Book Antiqua][SIZE=3]I think clearly any majority percentage of people that have a problem with this contract, will be equally comparable to the percentage that didn’t send their survey in, or didn’t vote for the General President election.[/SIZE][/FONT] [SIZE=3][/SIZE] [FONT=Book Antiqua][SIZE=3]I think it might have been a wake up call for a lot of those people that don’t get involved, or get involved to late. People that just sit back being social-loafers and letting things come as they may, letting everyone else govern the collective all with the limited turn out in votes and participation of surveys, or just general participation at all. Then once things don’t go the way you want them, you say, [I]hey wait a minute, this isn’t cool[/I].[/SIZE][/FONT] [SIZE=3][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][FONT=Book Antiqua]So in the end, I would have to agree with a lot of my counterparts when they say, that’s what you get. [/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][FONT=Book Antiqua]Also, I think that it is very unique time right now for the labor movement. Not enough has been done to educate the younger ranks on the importance of involvement. But the blame is not on the old guard alone; the younger guys need to be more autonomous in their commitment to the future of organized labor (and this is not just in the IBT, but in Labor across the board). [/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][/SIZE] [FONT=Book Antiqua][SIZE=3]With reference to the division between the old guard and the new guard…its almost as if we are on the Titanic and the old guard is leaving on life-rafts and we are left on the ship polishing the brass. Maybe that’s not the best metaphor. But, I think most of you might get my point.[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Book Antiqua][SIZE=3](and yes, of course, there are exceptions to the rules in everything I have said).[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT='Times New Roman'][/FONT] [/QUOTE]
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