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The truth about the new UPS/IBT pension plan
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<blockquote data-quote="JonFrum" data-source="post: 265761"><p>Tie, the strike authorization vote was taken after months of negotiations had already taken place and the members knew, in general, what the company was proposing, and that it was unacceptable. Like it or not, the Teamster Negotiating Committee was our representatives. They were authorized to make certain decisions on our behalf. That's the way collective bargaining works. </p><p></p><p>On the other hand, in individual bargaining, like when a sports superstar has his personal contract negotiated by his personal lawyer, (nicknamed "Swifty" usually,) the star probably gets hourly reports and can "vote" on each clause as it is discussed. It's not practical to have the entire membership in the negotiating room, or to have them in the hallway, or on hold on the phone. Instead, our representatives negotiate until they have achieved an acceptable agreement, or the company has declared it's unacceptable offer "final." Then our negotiators either put the agreement to a vote, or call a strike in order to pressure the company to reach an acceptable agreement. Remember, we were dealing with UPS, not Mother Theresa.</p><p></p><p>The lack of trust in our leadership applied (and applies even more today) to the Old Guard, the guys UPS loves to deal with, not to Ron Carey. </p><p></p><p>Our strike authorization vote was publicized in advance and taken at the Union Hall. A lot of members skip it because they correctly see it as a vote that will pass overwhelmingly, with or without their presence. And because they have already put in a hard week's work and have other things to do on the weekend.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="JonFrum, post: 265761"] Tie, the strike authorization vote was taken after months of negotiations had already taken place and the members knew, in general, what the company was proposing, and that it was unacceptable. Like it or not, the Teamster Negotiating Committee was our representatives. They were authorized to make certain decisions on our behalf. That's the way collective bargaining works. On the other hand, in individual bargaining, like when a sports superstar has his personal contract negotiated by his personal lawyer, (nicknamed "Swifty" usually,) the star probably gets hourly reports and can "vote" on each clause as it is discussed. It's not practical to have the entire membership in the negotiating room, or to have them in the hallway, or on hold on the phone. Instead, our representatives negotiate until they have achieved an acceptable agreement, or the company has declared it's unacceptable offer "final." Then our negotiators either put the agreement to a vote, or call a strike in order to pressure the company to reach an acceptable agreement. Remember, we were dealing with UPS, not Mother Theresa. The lack of trust in our leadership applied (and applies even more today) to the Old Guard, the guys UPS loves to deal with, not to Ron Carey. Our strike authorization vote was publicized in advance and taken at the Union Hall. A lot of members skip it because they correctly see it as a vote that will pass overwhelmingly, with or without their presence. And because they have already put in a hard week's work and have other things to do on the weekend. [/QUOTE]
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