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<blockquote data-quote="JustAnotherSup" data-source="post: 4374432" data-attributes="member: 66862"><p><strong>If </strong>we assume that the optimal order for delivering a route will be running it in segments of straight business deliveries, straight pickups, and straight residential deliveries, you are correct (and to be extra fair to your idea, maybe we should add straight next day air to the start there).</p><p></p><p>Even if we don't throw anything 'interesting" into that mix like placard pickups that are earlier in the day than you'd finish your last business delivery...</p><p></p><p><strong>That solution is clearly not the optimal solution for delivering a route in almost all cases. It isn't even close.</strong> Have next day air in an area that you'd normally spend a lot of time and miles getting to, and it can be your last air stop, and you can knock out all the nearby deliveries after making that air stop so you don't need to backtrack 20 minutes later in your day? Sorry, those additional deliveries are mixed business and commercial. So uhh, we'll just deliver the business and then backtrack later for 4 residential stops. Because we're running straight businesses. Or maybe that area is all residential. So we go to the first business, bypassing those 4 residential stops, and then spend 20 minutes later in the day to back track for no reason.</p><p></p><p>So maybe you improve on the idea and find an approach to when it makes sense to insert resis into that order of businesses, and insert pickups in there in a smarter way, et cetera. And you do it in a way that is, computationally speaking, reasonable based on our current level of technology. That approach is literally what ORION already is (except, worse at solving the problem we really want to solve, because the framework behind ORION is way more robust than what we're describing here).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="JustAnotherSup, post: 4374432, member: 66862"] [B]If [/B]we assume that the optimal order for delivering a route will be running it in segments of straight business deliveries, straight pickups, and straight residential deliveries, you are correct (and to be extra fair to your idea, maybe we should add straight next day air to the start there). Even if we don't throw anything 'interesting" into that mix like placard pickups that are earlier in the day than you'd finish your last business delivery... [B]That solution is clearly not the optimal solution for delivering a route in almost all cases. It isn't even close.[/B] Have next day air in an area that you'd normally spend a lot of time and miles getting to, and it can be your last air stop, and you can knock out all the nearby deliveries after making that air stop so you don't need to backtrack 20 minutes later in your day? Sorry, those additional deliveries are mixed business and commercial. So uhh, we'll just deliver the business and then backtrack later for 4 residential stops. Because we're running straight businesses. Or maybe that area is all residential. So we go to the first business, bypassing those 4 residential stops, and then spend 20 minutes later in the day to back track for no reason. So maybe you improve on the idea and find an approach to when it makes sense to insert resis into that order of businesses, and insert pickups in there in a smarter way, et cetera. And you do it in a way that is, computationally speaking, reasonable based on our current level of technology. That approach is literally what ORION already is (except, worse at solving the problem we really want to solve, because the framework behind ORION is way more robust than what we're describing here). [/QUOTE]
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