This is why you don't let the Old Guard run your local

Discussion in 'UPS Union Issues' started by realbrown1, Mar 27, 2014.

  1. realbrown1

    realbrown1 Annoy a liberal today. Hit them with facts.

    Local 952's LM-2 report just went online today. It is showing what Reformers have been saying would happen. The union is getting closer to bankruptcy. Here are the official net assets per year as reported by P. Kelly:

    2008 $768,159.00

    2009 $570,037.00

    2010 $197,900.00

    2011 $165,714.00

    2012 -$17,643.00

    2013 -$221,664.00

    Looks like BK is a year or two away. Don't let they Old Guard ruin your local like this.
     
  2. Hawfuh Sux

    Hawfuh Sux Old Guard Assassin!

    It must be TDU faults.
     
  3. RonBurgandy??????????

    RonBurgandy?????????? God is Great, beer is good , People are crazy.

    How do you lose a million dollars in 5 years??!?!
     
  4. PiedmontSteward

    PiedmontSteward RTW-4-Less

    Having 10 paid staff members (not officers/agents) for a medium-sized local is a good start. Organizers working out of a union hall are a great thing.. when the local can afford it. There's also a steward that was paid $10,000 last year; no idea how that works unless he's getting pulled off for lost-time for an entire fiscal quarter.. but I don't know why you would do that with two project organizers already on staff full-time.

    Three members of the e-board are listed as business agents. There are nine additional BA's on the payroll. That's a total of 12 business agents on staff. Comparatively, Local 25 in Boston with roughly 1,000 more members has six total BA's on payroll.
     
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  5. Wally

    Wally Hailing from Parts Unknown.

    Sound like the local is being run like the Obama administration!

    What is the reasoning the leadership gives for this?
     
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  6. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    Sounds like a streamlining of operations and a temporary dues increase are in order.
     
  7. 3 done 3 to go

    3 done 3 to go In control of my own destiny



    Nothing is ever temporary
     
  8. HEFFERNAN

    HEFFERNAN Huge Member

    Love how someone can take one example of poor business management and assume that's how it works everywhere else.
     
  9. realbrown1

    realbrown1 Annoy a liberal today. Hit them with facts.

    They can always pull a "Hoffa".

    Raise union dues and raise officer salaries and perks.
     
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  10. brownmonster

    brownmonster Man of Great Wisdom

    Unlike the one before him that was in the black every year. Not.
     
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  11. PiedmontSteward

    PiedmontSteward RTW-4-Less

    Union officials/staff members (secretaries, organizers, etc.) out of UPS have had recall rights since the mid-1990's or so, meaning they can return to their previous jobs with the company without loss of seniority rights. I'm not as familiar with recall rights with other Teamster companies, but I'm sure they exist. Twelve business agents (with 3 members of the e-board listed as such but not the ST..) on staff for a roughly 8,500 member local is insane.

    Local 120, for example, has 15 business agents on staff (they are still in trusteeship after their e-board was nailed by the IRB) but they also have over 11,300 members and five separate offices spread out across four different states (Minnesota, Iowa, N Dakota, S Dakota).
     
  12. The Other Side

    The Other Side Well-Known Troll Troll


    SHHH, LAGUNA BROWN will tell you that this is good fiscal management and there is nothing to see here. PK is NOT TDU. He is a Hoffa man and we told you all over a year ago that this was coming. TDU also was out front warning that this would be the case.

    I repeat, dont be shocked when the local is placed under trusteeship and then split between local 63 and local 396.

    2014 will also be in the red, except you wont see those numbers till next year.

    TOS.
     
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  13. realbrown1

    realbrown1 Annoy a liberal today. Hit them with facts.

    I can't believe I'm agreeing with TOS. But in this case, we're both right.
     
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  14. Hawfuh Sux

    Hawfuh Sux Old Guard Assassin!

    You should look at the finances of all the Southwest locals. They are financially the worse in the country and not one of those locals is ran by TDU. As a matter of fact every single local in the Southwest is strongly Hoffa with the exception of one, which endorsed Fred Gegare at the 2011 Convention.
     
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  15. realbrown1

    realbrown1 Annoy a liberal today. Hit them with facts.

    I wonder why Stink and the garg are not posting that P. Kelly should resign immediately?
    Oh, now I remember, they only call for the non-Old Guard officers to resign immediately.
     
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  16. 251

    251 You know me...


    Negative ASSETS? Did they buy a small chain of islands in the South Pacific? ?

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  17. 251

    251 You know me...

    Their website is precious!

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  18. Overpaid Union Thug

    Overpaid Union Thug Well-Known Member

    Wow. Pathetic!
     
  19. Hawfuh Sux

    Hawfuh Sux Old Guard Assassin!

    That economic times are hard, haha!
     
  20. TimeForChange

    TimeForChange Active Member

    Patrick K's old Chicago buddy Patrick Flynn could easily afford to write a personal check for $221,664 to get local 952 back up to being just flat broke. Flynn grabbed more than half a million dollars in 2013 from the dues of local 710 members.