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<blockquote data-quote="PobreCarlos" data-source="post: 625096" data-attributes="member: 16651"><p>Captain America;</p><p> </p><p>Yeah, it's that "every man for himself philosophy that is bringing this country down" alright. (smile)</p><p> </p><p>By that I mean have you LOOKED at the gov't deficit lately...and how it's grown just in the last year or so? I'd submit that it's not "every man for himself"; rather, it's "those who can't-or-won't compete on a world-scale ganging up on those who do". The result? Capital flees the country to more friendly climes; climes where labor wants to be competitive. Climes where the future isn't mortgaged for generations forward. Climes where gov't is actually FRIENDLY to productive entities, as opposed to trading everything for votes to those who simply demand it.</p><p> </p><p>Of course, as capital flees, so do the jobs that capital offered. Oh, it might be preserved for a while on the basis of loans from entities that ARE efficient and productive (look how much debt China, for example, has assumed on our governments behalf...but, in the long run, someone has to pay. Moreover, there have to be entities that PRODUCE efficiently in order to be able to pay. Think unions have had a place in that formula? Some have, perhaps - after all, there's no law that unions HAVE to act stupidly and short-sightedly. But they're (obviously!) few and far between.</p><p> </p><p>In the end, those who complain about "capitalism" seem to be those who simply want an unearned handout; they seem to be the LAST ones to construct and maintain entities that PROVIDE meaningful jobs. Don't get me wrong; I'm all for temporary voluntary aid for those who legitimately try and just can't cut it. But the path we seem to be on seems to be the path of pre-Thatcher Great Britain, or post-war Argentina, or that of any of the other myriad countries who's citizens thought that there was a way to have a "free lunch"...and learned the hard way that there isn't.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="PobreCarlos, post: 625096, member: 16651"] Captain America; Yeah, it's that "every man for himself philosophy that is bringing this country down" alright. (smile) By that I mean have you LOOKED at the gov't deficit lately...and how it's grown just in the last year or so? I'd submit that it's not "every man for himself"; rather, it's "those who can't-or-won't compete on a world-scale ganging up on those who do". The result? Capital flees the country to more friendly climes; climes where labor wants to be competitive. Climes where the future isn't mortgaged for generations forward. Climes where gov't is actually FRIENDLY to productive entities, as opposed to trading everything for votes to those who simply demand it. Of course, as capital flees, so do the jobs that capital offered. Oh, it might be preserved for a while on the basis of loans from entities that ARE efficient and productive (look how much debt China, for example, has assumed on our governments behalf...but, in the long run, someone has to pay. Moreover, there have to be entities that PRODUCE efficiently in order to be able to pay. Think unions have had a place in that formula? Some have, perhaps - after all, there's no law that unions HAVE to act stupidly and short-sightedly. But they're (obviously!) few and far between. In the end, those who complain about "capitalism" seem to be those who simply want an unearned handout; they seem to be the LAST ones to construct and maintain entities that PROVIDE meaningful jobs. Don't get me wrong; I'm all for temporary voluntary aid for those who legitimately try and just can't cut it. But the path we seem to be on seems to be the path of pre-Thatcher Great Britain, or post-war Argentina, or that of any of the other myriad countries who's citizens thought that there was a way to have a "free lunch"...and learned the hard way that there isn't. [/QUOTE]
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