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<blockquote data-quote="PobreCarlos" data-source="post: 626228" data-attributes="member: 16651"><p>sobreups;</p><p> </p><p>Exactly in what way - if implemented correctly, from the driver's perspective - is PAS significantly different from the way sequential stop-for-stop loading if performed as it should be? Pray tell - this individual who you seem to think lacks operational experience is just ACHING to know. Be specific...and don't tell me how it was different in the way YOU "did the job", but how it was SUPPOSED to be done. You DO know how it was supposed to be done, don't you?</p><p> </p><p>As for "the agreement" in question - and here I'm speaking of the codicil the Teamsters signed regarding full-funding of CSPF - the problem is that THE TEAMSTER DIDN'T KEEP IT!!!!</p><p> </p><p>Got that? The TEAMSTERS DIDN'T ABIDE BY THEIR WORD! Nor, for that matter, did they abide by their assertions made decades earlier that concerning organization of the competition.</p><p> </p><p>As for your...</p><p> </p><p>"I've been doing this job in the <em>real world </em>for 22 years now"</p><p> </p><p>....beyond the obvious question of just WHAT "job" have you been doing, in that pleasing your employer is your ONLY job, just what has "doing this job" involved? Got a lot of operational experience, do ya'? How many drivers have you trained? How many areas have you run? How many have you run and/or trained on outside of your home center? Outside of your home division? Outside of your home district? Or, for that matter, outside of your home country? Or how many preloads have you implemented? Taken a sort from driver sort 'n' load to preload, have ya'? Or, beyond that, taken a preload from sectional load to sequential? How many loops have you traced and sequenced? How many center/route/unit boundaries have you defined from scratch when there was NO previous delivery experience in the geographical area whatsoever? What experience with work measurement do you have? What languages are you able to communicate in with the various nationalities UPS employees? Meaning I'm just dying to hear what "doing this job" means for someone like you.....and just how much of UPS "reality" you're aware of.</p><p> </p><p>With that in mind, I'll be waiting for you to explain the substantive difference (from the drivers perspective, IF he did his job right!) between sequential stop-per-stop, as implemented when loop dispatch was introduced, than the intent of PAS today. With your vast 22 years of operational experience, that shouldn't be a problem, should it?</p><p> </p><p>As for my "not being a victim"...well, perhaps you'll excuse me when I dare to propose that when an entity does NOT keep it's word, and DOES squander away billions of dollars of OTHERS money in the process, then those who's money was squandered have a RIGHT to feel "victimized". If you don't think that's the case, then perhaps you wouldn't mind coughing-up a million or so of your OWN money to ME by way of compensation. Then, after you've done so, tell me if YOU feel that you've been victimized or not.</p><p> </p><p>Hopefully your response will NOT be that which is far-too-common amongst Teamsters, and you WILL be able to back-up your posturing. [smile]</p><p> </p><p>Good luck.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="PobreCarlos, post: 626228, member: 16651"] sobreups; Exactly in what way - if implemented correctly, from the driver's perspective - is PAS significantly different from the way sequential stop-for-stop loading if performed as it should be? Pray tell - this individual who you seem to think lacks operational experience is just ACHING to know. Be specific...and don't tell me how it was different in the way YOU "did the job", but how it was SUPPOSED to be done. You DO know how it was supposed to be done, don't you? As for "the agreement" in question - and here I'm speaking of the codicil the Teamsters signed regarding full-funding of CSPF - the problem is that THE TEAMSTER DIDN'T KEEP IT!!!! Got that? The TEAMSTERS DIDN'T ABIDE BY THEIR WORD! Nor, for that matter, did they abide by their assertions made decades earlier that concerning organization of the competition. As for your... "I've been doing this job in the [I]real world [/I]for 22 years now" ....beyond the obvious question of just WHAT "job" have you been doing, in that pleasing your employer is your ONLY job, just what has "doing this job" involved? Got a lot of operational experience, do ya'? How many drivers have you trained? How many areas have you run? How many have you run and/or trained on outside of your home center? Outside of your home division? Outside of your home district? Or, for that matter, outside of your home country? Or how many preloads have you implemented? Taken a sort from driver sort 'n' load to preload, have ya'? Or, beyond that, taken a preload from sectional load to sequential? How many loops have you traced and sequenced? How many center/route/unit boundaries have you defined from scratch when there was NO previous delivery experience in the geographical area whatsoever? What experience with work measurement do you have? What languages are you able to communicate in with the various nationalities UPS employees? Meaning I'm just dying to hear what "doing this job" means for someone like you.....and just how much of UPS "reality" you're aware of. With that in mind, I'll be waiting for you to explain the substantive difference (from the drivers perspective, IF he did his job right!) between sequential stop-per-stop, as implemented when loop dispatch was introduced, than the intent of PAS today. With your vast 22 years of operational experience, that shouldn't be a problem, should it? As for my "not being a victim"...well, perhaps you'll excuse me when I dare to propose that when an entity does NOT keep it's word, and DOES squander away billions of dollars of OTHERS money in the process, then those who's money was squandered have a RIGHT to feel "victimized". If you don't think that's the case, then perhaps you wouldn't mind coughing-up a million or so of your OWN money to ME by way of compensation. Then, after you've done so, tell me if YOU feel that you've been victimized or not. Hopefully your response will NOT be that which is far-too-common amongst Teamsters, and you WILL be able to back-up your posturing. [smile] Good luck. [/QUOTE]
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