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<blockquote data-quote="PobreCarlos" data-source="post: 626353" data-attributes="member: 16651"><p>scoutjumper;</p><p> </p><p>Not a billionaire by any stretch of the imagination. But I suspect that my UPS holdings were considerably greater than that of any hourly employee when the withdrawal fee/Teamster bail-out issue came up. Not that I don't think ALL shareholders were worthy of having that money in THEIR pockets - where it belonged by virtue of being EARNED, rather than in that of the Teamsters union, where it came to reside based on corruption and misrepresentation....but there were a lot of individual shareholders who gave up quite significant amounts (and we're talking a career Teamster's retirement level funding here) in making good that union cluster fudge. Again, $5 billion (the differential between the ultimate $6 billion withdrawal fee, and the $1 billion it would have been in '97) is one heck of a lot of money, even after being split up amongst a lot of shareholders.</p><p> </p><p>As for the top down structure...yeah, I somewhat have to agree with you, although I'm long gone from experiencing it on a daily basis. On the other hand, I was hearing (and "making", if truth be told!) EXACTLY the same comments, expressed in the same way, well more than three decades ago....and, to be truthful, I expect (if I'm still around) to be hearing them more than three decades in the future. UPS has never been "easy", no matter what level you were at, and probably never will be. And "yes", the crap does tend to run downhill. Whether there's more of it headed in that direction today than in times past, I can't really say....although not denying for a minute that, for many observers, it sure seems that way.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="PobreCarlos, post: 626353, member: 16651"] scoutjumper; Not a billionaire by any stretch of the imagination. But I suspect that my UPS holdings were considerably greater than that of any hourly employee when the withdrawal fee/Teamster bail-out issue came up. Not that I don't think ALL shareholders were worthy of having that money in THEIR pockets - where it belonged by virtue of being EARNED, rather than in that of the Teamsters union, where it came to reside based on corruption and misrepresentation....but there were a lot of individual shareholders who gave up quite significant amounts (and we're talking a career Teamster's retirement level funding here) in making good that union cluster fudge. Again, $5 billion (the differential between the ultimate $6 billion withdrawal fee, and the $1 billion it would have been in '97) is one heck of a lot of money, even after being split up amongst a lot of shareholders. As for the top down structure...yeah, I somewhat have to agree with you, although I'm long gone from experiencing it on a daily basis. On the other hand, I was hearing (and "making", if truth be told!) EXACTLY the same comments, expressed in the same way, well more than three decades ago....and, to be truthful, I expect (if I'm still around) to be hearing them more than three decades in the future. UPS has never been "easy", no matter what level you were at, and probably never will be. And "yes", the crap does tend to run downhill. Whether there's more of it headed in that direction today than in times past, I can't really say....although not denying for a minute that, for many observers, it sure seems that way. [/QUOTE]
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