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<blockquote data-quote="JonFrum" data-source="post: 738848" data-attributes="member: 18044"><p>I tried to politely alert everyone to the fact that bad advice was being given in this thread, but aparently several people think it's me that is out of line. Here's the bad advice I was referring to. (Of course, like all exerpts, these quotes are unavoidably taken slightly out of context.)</p><p></p><p>"Unless you call the injury into Liberty Mutual that day, you lose. When the next day rolls around, UPS will say the injury never happened on property. Your immediate supervisor will completely forget that you injured yourself. He will deny all conversations he had with you the day before." (Also endorsed by a subsequent poster.)</p><p>Almost certainly false.</p><p></p><p>"I would go so far to say for you go back today and ask to be taken to the clinic. . ."</p><p>Sprained ankles only heal by staying off them, not by going to work, and then to a clinic.</p><p></p><p>"You may have a stress fracture or a torn ligament or you may have just a simple sprain. Like I said, we have 24 hours to call it in to the insurance company."</p><p>Supervisors may have 24 hours, but that isn't a limit imposed on the original poster if he is home.</p><p></p><p>"If your condition worsens to the point where you need to seek medical attention, let your supervisor know as he may want to accompany you."</p><p>Supervisors, in an emergency, may serve as an taxi taking someone from work to the hospital, but not from home to the hospital. Supervisors are not doctors. They have no legal right to know your medical details. Asking them to unnecessarily accompany you opens you up to them second-guessing every move, and entering the examining room with you. This is not to be allowed.</p><p></p><p>"If you do not have the injury reported and it turns out to be a bigger isue that you thought you will be on your own to take care of the medical expenses and time off work."</p><p>The injury was reported.</p><p></p><p>"Go back to the building and report the injury immediatly and go see a doctor, before its too late."</p><p>Two seperate trips after the ankle has swelled up will only make a sprained ankle worse. One poster says he followed this course and ended up on TAW for five weeks.</p><p></p><p>"In my opinion you should go back to the building and tell them what happened and that you want to go to the clinic."</p><p>Stay off a sprained ankle. The original poster specifically said he eventually couldn't walk. Why advise him to make two unnecessary trips? </p><p> </p><p>(At this point I made my comment.)</p><p> </p><p>"If it feels bad tomorrow you should go to work get it entered into the system (done online now) get it looked and make sure its not serious." (Also endorsed by two subsequent posters.)</p><p> </p><p>"You should report the injury, get it looked at . . ."</p><p></p><p>The original poster's actions should be dictated by his own evaluation of his moment by moment medical condition, not by UPS safety contests, or various poster's recomendations. I advised everyone to reread the original post so everyone would see that while the poster's ankle did later prevent him from walking (which is part of the healing process, as the body immobilizes the ankle) he also said "it really wasn't a bad fall." None of us can diagnose over the Internet, but it appeared this was not likely a serious injury or a Workers Comp case. In fact, he went in to work the next day.</p><p> </p><p><u>Please</u> resist the urge to respond to this post and keep it going. I felt it was necessary for me to respond to criticisms directed at me especially since one criticism was from a Moderator! Subsequent events indicate my advice to stay off the ankle as long as the <u>patient</u> deemed necessary, and let it heal, appears to have been correct.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="JonFrum, post: 738848, member: 18044"] I tried to politely alert everyone to the fact that bad advice was being given in this thread, but aparently several people think it's me that is out of line. Here's the bad advice I was referring to. (Of course, like all exerpts, these quotes are unavoidably taken slightly out of context.) "Unless you call the injury into Liberty Mutual that day, you lose. When the next day rolls around, UPS will say the injury never happened on property. Your immediate supervisor will completely forget that you injured yourself. He will deny all conversations he had with you the day before." (Also endorsed by a subsequent poster.) Almost certainly false. "I would go so far to say for you go back today and ask to be taken to the clinic. . ." Sprained ankles only heal by staying off them, not by going to work, and then to a clinic. "You may have a stress fracture or a torn ligament or you may have just a simple sprain. Like I said, we have 24 hours to call it in to the insurance company." Supervisors may have 24 hours, but that isn't a limit imposed on the original poster if he is home. "If your condition worsens to the point where you need to seek medical attention, let your supervisor know as he may want to accompany you." Supervisors, in an emergency, may serve as an taxi taking someone from work to the hospital, but not from home to the hospital. Supervisors are not doctors. They have no legal right to know your medical details. Asking them to unnecessarily accompany you opens you up to them second-guessing every move, and entering the examining room with you. This is not to be allowed. "If you do not have the injury reported and it turns out to be a bigger isue that you thought you will be on your own to take care of the medical expenses and time off work." The injury was reported. "Go back to the building and report the injury immediatly and go see a doctor, before its too late." Two seperate trips after the ankle has swelled up will only make a sprained ankle worse. One poster says he followed this course and ended up on TAW for five weeks. "In my opinion you should go back to the building and tell them what happened and that you want to go to the clinic." Stay off a sprained ankle. The original poster specifically said he eventually couldn't walk. Why advise him to make two unnecessary trips? (At this point I made my comment.) "If it feels bad tomorrow you should go to work get it entered into the system (done online now) get it looked and make sure its not serious." (Also endorsed by two subsequent posters.) "You should report the injury, get it looked at . . ." The original poster's actions should be dictated by his own evaluation of his moment by moment medical condition, not by UPS safety contests, or various poster's recomendations. I advised everyone to reread the original post so everyone would see that while the poster's ankle did later prevent him from walking (which is part of the healing process, as the body immobilizes the ankle) he also said "it really wasn't a bad fall." None of us can diagnose over the Internet, but it appeared this was not likely a serious injury or a Workers Comp case. In fact, he went in to work the next day. [U]Please[/U] resist the urge to respond to this post and keep it going. I felt it was necessary for me to respond to criticisms directed at me especially since one criticism was from a Moderator! Subsequent events indicate my advice to stay off the ankle as long as the [U]patient[/U] deemed necessary, and let it heal, appears to have been correct. [/QUOTE]
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