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<blockquote data-quote="canon" data-source="post: 171414" data-attributes="member: 8423"><p><strong>Re: What type of route is easier on your body?</strong></p><p></p><p></p><p>Tie, the others aren't "fooled". This is yet another example of your arrogance and insulting attempt to dismiss everyone who disagrees with you as being less intelligent than yourself. They can read the posts, they know who is instigating.</p><p></p><p>In each and every case that I've seen you step in with some insult because someone says something you don't like. Usually it's a negative comment about someone in management that is doing something they shouldn't and you come to their aid with <em>personal attacks</em> against the person who posted it. That's how it started with us, that's how it was derailed in this thread. From everything I've seen, drivers are against dishonest drivers <em><u>and</u></em> dishonest management. You can't find fault in management and any driver who disagrees with you is target for insults.</p><p></p><p>Time and time again, your goal has been to instigate fights with uncalled for little potshots against teamsters as a whole or against someone you argued with in the past.... always at the sacrifice of the thread. Nobody had even said anything to you in this thread when you attacked someone. Has nothing to do with "taking sides", the Terms of Service are aimed at those people who troll or flame:</p><p></p><p> <strong><u>Troll</u></strong></p><p><strong>(v.) (1) To deliberately post derogatory or inflammatory comments to a community forum, chat room, newsgroup and/or a blog in order to bait other users into responding.</strong></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px">Source: <a href="http://isp.webopedia.com/TERM/T/troll.html" target="_blank">http://isp.webopedia.com/TERM/T/troll.html</a></span></p><p></p><p><strong><u>Flame</u></strong></p><p><strong>(n.) A searing e-mail or newsgroup message in which the writer attacks another participant in overly harsh, and often personal, terms. Flames are an unfortunate, but inevitable, element of unmoderated conferences.</strong></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px">Source:<a href="http://isp.webopedia.com/TERM/friend/flame.html" target="_blank">http://isp.webopedia.com/TERM/friend/flame.html</a></span></p><p></p><p></p><p>I'll be the first to admit I enjoy debate and even friendly banter. I think it's good for the community and enjoyable to read. It's what gives the site the addictive ingredient in my opinion and probably a very difficult thing to moderate. IMO, you just don't know when to stop and most people will continue to defend themselves like myself. The more people stand up to you, the more determined you are to appear innocent. </p><p></p><p>The "cowardly thugs who run in packs" as you put it, are nothing more than other members who enjoy logging in and not being berated or hammered with personal insults simply because they fell into disagreement with you in the past. They are also the new members who log in and take an interest in a thread, only to see it derailed by your insults. What kind of impression does that send? I spent many posts falling for your trolling, and it seems I'm doing it again. Again, you can say you're only fighting back... but it happens too often where nobody has said a word to you and everybody has read it.</p><p></p><p>And I have yet to see you "stomp" anyone... that would require some creativity on your part which doesn't translate well into your personal attacks. Annoying? Yes. Childish? Oh yeah. Management material? At best, most of us have met supes just like you. At worst, you've just given a crash course to those who haven't. Welcome to UPS, <em>this</em> is why a union is still needed.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="canon, post: 171414, member: 8423"] [b]Re: What type of route is easier on your body?[/b] Tie, the others aren't "fooled". This is yet another example of your arrogance and insulting attempt to dismiss everyone who disagrees with you as being less intelligent than yourself. They can read the posts, they know who is instigating. In each and every case that I've seen you step in with some insult because someone says something you don't like. Usually it's a negative comment about someone in management that is doing something they shouldn't and you come to their aid with [I]personal attacks[/I] against the person who posted it. That's how it started with us, that's how it was derailed in this thread. From everything I've seen, drivers are against dishonest drivers [I][U]and[/U][/I] dishonest management. You can't find fault in management and any driver who disagrees with you is target for insults. Time and time again, your goal has been to instigate fights with uncalled for little potshots against teamsters as a whole or against someone you argued with in the past.... always at the sacrifice of the thread. Nobody had even said anything to you in this thread when you attacked someone. Has nothing to do with "taking sides", the Terms of Service are aimed at those people who troll or flame: [B][U]Troll[/U] (v.) (1) To deliberately post derogatory or inflammatory comments to a community forum, chat room, newsgroup and/or a blog in order to bait other users into responding.[/B] [SIZE="1"]Source: [url]http://isp.webopedia.com/TERM/T/troll.html[/url][/SIZE] [B][U]Flame[/U][/B] [B](n.) A searing e-mail or newsgroup message in which the writer attacks another participant in overly harsh, and often personal, terms. Flames are an unfortunate, but inevitable, element of unmoderated conferences.[/B] [SIZE="1"]Source:[url]http://isp.webopedia.com/TERM/friend/flame.html[/url][/SIZE] I'll be the first to admit I enjoy debate and even friendly banter. I think it's good for the community and enjoyable to read. It's what gives the site the addictive ingredient in my opinion and probably a very difficult thing to moderate. IMO, you just don't know when to stop and most people will continue to defend themselves like myself. The more people stand up to you, the more determined you are to appear innocent. The "cowardly thugs who run in packs" as you put it, are nothing more than other members who enjoy logging in and not being berated or hammered with personal insults simply because they fell into disagreement with you in the past. They are also the new members who log in and take an interest in a thread, only to see it derailed by your insults. What kind of impression does that send? I spent many posts falling for your trolling, and it seems I'm doing it again. Again, you can say you're only fighting back... but it happens too often where nobody has said a word to you and everybody has read it. And I have yet to see you "stomp" anyone... that would require some creativity on your part which doesn't translate well into your personal attacks. Annoying? Yes. Childish? Oh yeah. Management material? At best, most of us have met supes just like you. At worst, you've just given a crash course to those who haven't. Welcome to UPS, [I]this[/I] is why a union is still needed. [/QUOTE]
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