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<blockquote data-quote="Brownnblue" data-source="post: 204518" data-attributes="member: 1941"><p>I think Browniehound & I are on the same page with this, so.........................</p><p> </p><p>OH, OHOH, OHOHOH, pick me, pick me. I have questions. Pick me, pick me.</p><p> </p><p>1) How would the time study observer know for certain that these parcels weighed 12 & 15 pounds? If it is retail (or for that matter, anywhere), then a dishonest weight measurement by the shipper could have caused the driver to make that extra trip.</p><p>2) At exactly what point is that driver allowed to make an extra trip to the truck for the second parcel? At exactly what point is it more efficient to break out the hand truck? Is it measured per piece? Per total weight? Per package size? Per weight per package? Any variables such as awkward contents, ripped or broken box, or possibility of fragile contents? </p><p>3) (Browniehound covered this in the last post) You said that there was one small size parcel averaging 13.5 pounds for each retail store. Realistically, retail stores will have more then one parcel per day. How does the time study observer take this into account? Could it be possible that the driver realizes that his/her next time study will be in the year 2022 (it was 15 years between mine) and is trying to "convey a message" to the observer? And if the observer calculates the activity the way vette did, what kind of allowance does the driver get for the next fifteen years. Is the driver simply out of luck because of a light load on one day?</p><p>4) Let's look at this from a different angle, one I've never heard from the IE side. Many drivers build up positive relationships with their customers, to the point where the customer will actually help out the driver doing certain elements of the time study job. Examples might be helping out unloading at certain loading docks, or meeting the driver at the front walkway for a residential package, or helping the driver with a heavy package. Now if this occurs on time study day, is the driver given the allowance for the actual occurrence, or is the driver given what "the planned time should be"? We all know that people move and things change (especially in 15 years). What is the procedure here? It would seem to me that if your docking a driver for method irregularities, but not giving him credit for building relationships that lead to help on the route, that this would be improper. You can't have it both ways.</p><p>5) How does a package that weighs one pound differentiated from a package that weighs sixty pounds in the calculation? </p><p>6) A retail store would be more busy during certain periods, is there any way to account for this. I remember one post here that said that the building that he was working in was time studied in the summer, when traffic from schools in the area was not a factor. Are things like this considered, or does the driver just have to wait fifteen years and hope that they are time studied while school is in session.</p><p>7) Kudos to vette for going over the time study with the driver. But despite my pleas and begging, my time study has still not been reviewed and it has been five months. WHY? Again, is it too much to ask to see the quota system for my job??!!??</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Brownnblue, post: 204518, member: 1941"] I think Browniehound & I are on the same page with this, so......................... OH, OHOH, OHOHOH, pick me, pick me. I have questions. Pick me, pick me. 1) How would the time study observer know for certain that these parcels weighed 12 & 15 pounds? If it is retail (or for that matter, anywhere), then a dishonest weight measurement by the shipper could have caused the driver to make that extra trip. 2) At exactly what point is that driver allowed to make an extra trip to the truck for the second parcel? At exactly what point is it more efficient to break out the hand truck? Is it measured per piece? Per total weight? Per package size? Per weight per package? Any variables such as awkward contents, ripped or broken box, or possibility of fragile contents? 3) (Browniehound covered this in the last post) You said that there was one small size parcel averaging 13.5 pounds for each retail store. Realistically, retail stores will have more then one parcel per day. How does the time study observer take this into account? Could it be possible that the driver realizes that his/her next time study will be in the year 2022 (it was 15 years between mine) and is trying to "convey a message" to the observer? And if the observer calculates the activity the way vette did, what kind of allowance does the driver get for the next fifteen years. Is the driver simply out of luck because of a light load on one day? 4) Let's look at this from a different angle, one I've never heard from the IE side. Many drivers build up positive relationships with their customers, to the point where the customer will actually help out the driver doing certain elements of the time study job. Examples might be helping out unloading at certain loading docks, or meeting the driver at the front walkway for a residential package, or helping the driver with a heavy package. Now if this occurs on time study day, is the driver given the allowance for the actual occurrence, or is the driver given what "the planned time should be"? We all know that people move and things change (especially in 15 years). What is the procedure here? It would seem to me that if your docking a driver for method irregularities, but not giving him credit for building relationships that lead to help on the route, that this would be improper. You can't have it both ways. 5) How does a package that weighs one pound differentiated from a package that weighs sixty pounds in the calculation? 6) A retail store would be more busy during certain periods, is there any way to account for this. I remember one post here that said that the building that he was working in was time studied in the summer, when traffic from schools in the area was not a factor. Are things like this considered, or does the driver just have to wait fifteen years and hope that they are time studied while school is in session. 7) Kudos to vette for going over the time study with the driver. But despite my pleas and begging, my time study has still not been reviewed and it has been five months. WHY? Again, is it too much to ask to see the quota system for my job??!!?? [/QUOTE]
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