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<blockquote data-quote="Bagels" data-source="post: 1188151" data-attributes="member: 43436"><p>LOL! This is what we call a logical fallacy. Despite PTers reporting waits of more than 10 years to go into FT driving in most locations, you truly believe UPS "..can't get anyone to drive no matter what they pay them!" Same's true on the operational managerial side: Most PT supervisors have reported long waits to go into FT management (typically 'you're near the top of the list for a promotion ... there's just no jobs available.') Same's true on the professional side: There's literally a handful of jobs available systemwide, despite UPS being one of the world's largest companies. Contrast that with smaller, similar companies such as FedEx which has oodles of openings. If UPS were truly under-compensating its employee groups, there's simply no way this would be true. UPS may not be the place it was years ago. But UPS pays significantly more than its competition for similar jobs requisitioning similar skill sets sets. </p><p></p><p>Comments about the hostile work environment that UPS is coupled with low pay are just flat out silly. If you believe this to be true, then take yourself to a higher-paying employer that provides a better work culture (unfortunately, Camelot only exists in fiction). UPS may not be a fun place to work. But it compensates its employees (sans PTers in the early reigns of their careers) well and money talks.</p><p></p><p>And quite honestly, all the FT drivers earning in excess of $30/hour (plus full no-cost health & welfare benefits) who believe nobody could replicate their work performance and/or nobody else would work for the wage they earn really needs to get over themselves.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Bagels, post: 1188151, member: 43436"] LOL! This is what we call a logical fallacy. Despite PTers reporting waits of more than 10 years to go into FT driving in most locations, you truly believe UPS "..can't get anyone to drive no matter what they pay them!" Same's true on the operational managerial side: Most PT supervisors have reported long waits to go into FT management (typically 'you're near the top of the list for a promotion ... there's just no jobs available.') Same's true on the professional side: There's literally a handful of jobs available systemwide, despite UPS being one of the world's largest companies. Contrast that with smaller, similar companies such as FedEx which has oodles of openings. If UPS were truly under-compensating its employee groups, there's simply no way this would be true. UPS may not be the place it was years ago. But UPS pays significantly more than its competition for similar jobs requisitioning similar skill sets sets. Comments about the hostile work environment that UPS is coupled with low pay are just flat out silly. If you believe this to be true, then take yourself to a higher-paying employer that provides a better work culture (unfortunately, Camelot only exists in fiction). UPS may not be a fun place to work. But it compensates its employees (sans PTers in the early reigns of their careers) well and money talks. And quite honestly, all the FT drivers earning in excess of $30/hour (plus full no-cost health & welfare benefits) who believe nobody could replicate their work performance and/or nobody else would work for the wage they earn really needs to get over themselves. [/QUOTE]
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