To guarantee or not to guarantee, that is the question.

Discussion in 'UPS Discussions' started by upschuck, Mar 19, 2014.

  1. upschuck

    upschuck Avatar bet gone wrong

    I've noticed in other threads that some areas guarantee all drivers 8 hrs, while others only bid drivers are guaranteed 8. I am assuming that those that do guarantee the 8, that they use PT cover drivers heavily. How many FT non bid drivers do you guys have? My center does not guarantee anything to FT non bid drivers, but most all work everyday. Only slow time for layoff would be in the Jan/Feb months, and this year with the weather most all worked then as well. We do not have any PT cover drivers. We have about 15+ FT non bid drivers in each of the 2 centers in my building. I would think that the way my center does it would make more FT driving opportunities and higher pay sooner than the guaranteed way. What do you guys think?
     
  2. I think you are right! As usual!:censored2::censored2:...lol
     
  3. PT Car Washer

    PT Car Washer Well-Known Member

    All of our package car drivers are FT with a daily 8 hour guarantee. Most have bid routes and the ones who don't cover for vacations or days off. Or run garbage routes which are overflow from other routes. Pretty much work everyday except Jan/Feb maybe. Everyone has been working steady this winter. No PT cover drivers here.
     
  4. Brownslave688

    Brownslave688 You want a toe? I can get you a toe.

    Same here if you're a driver you're FT. We have had times when the bottom few were laid off. Still get hours though. I double shifted a few times in my day to get my 8.
     
  5. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    All of our FT bid drivers are guaranteed their 8. Casuals are guaranteed their 8 only when they are scheduled to work.
     
  6. govols019

    govols019 You smell that?

    We have PT cover drivers here but if they clock in they are guaranteed 8.
     
  7. upschuck

    upschuck Avatar bet gone wrong

    I have read on here that in some centers, that all FT drivers get 8 even if they don't work and if that hinders the company to put on more FT drivers. And do they like that even though it took them longer to get the job.
     
  8. ikoi62

    ikoi62 Member

    ft drivers,ft clerks,ft porters guaranteed 8 pt loaders and unloaders guaranteed 3.5 No PT cover drivers.
     
  9. brownmonster

    brownmonster Man of Great Wisdom

    I highly doubt that. The company constantly breaks areas to avoid paying more drivers. I'm sure if the were paying someone not to work they would bring them in and lower the overtime on other drivers. Forgive me if I mis interpreted your post.
     
  10. upschuck

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    That is how I interpreted some(more than 1) posts on other threads here saying they are guaranteed their 8 hrs if worked or not. I will see if I can find those and post them here.
     
  11. PT Car Washer

    PT Car Washer Well-Known Member

    I don't think the company will let that happen too many times.
     
  12. upschuck

    upschuck Avatar bet gone wrong

    Here are a couple quotes
     
  13. brownmonster

    brownmonster Man of Great Wisdom

    All that means is if they work they get the 8 hour guarantee. Our full time and full time drivers without a bid route are guaranteed 8. I would assume a TCD that comes out of part time to cover a single vacation day isn't. Our center doesn't put drivers on the road unless its a full route.
     
  14. upschuck

    upschuck Avatar bet gone wrong

    Some1else's post sounds like they get eight no matter what. Read the second paragraph about being "on call"
     
  15. brownmonster

    brownmonster Man of Great Wisdom

    I see it as call in until a certain time to see if we have work. You are never really on call.
     
  16. Which my stewards have told me is not actually in the contract.


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  17. upschuck

    upschuck Avatar bet gone wrong

    We always waited til an hour after normal start times to be called(normal procedure), called in, or just came in and hoped to work. Our start time list states "on call".
     
  18. If we deliver ground....8 hour guarantee......unless you are a sell out....time worked...which is not allowed
     
  19. PT Car Washer

    PT Car Washer Well-Known Member

    The company has to tell you if you are laid off for the week. If you are officially laid off you can bump the lowest seniority PTers to make your 40 hours for the week.
     
  20. We have around 55 FT bid drivers, no FT cover drivers, 12 PT cover. If your touch a ground package as a pt cover you get paid same rate as FT, but if you only do airs, you get air rate. They can force them to do either. I guess the upside to having PT covers is that the FT jobs are filled as fast as they're vacated, but the downside is that there are routes that have only ever been done by PT covers, so the total FT job count would undoubtedly be lower than a center without PT covers.