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<blockquote data-quote="PiedmontSteward" data-source="post: 1179857" data-attributes="member: 42270"><p>This is a good observation. In my experience, most PT supervisors don't know anything about the contract. FT supervisors know a bit more -- mostly from experience and from getting grieved. Only the sort managers and above seem to be thoroughly trained in labor relations; UPS routinely has their sort managers attend regional grievance panels so they can learn what sort of discipline and terminations stick and which ones don't. I was told the labor managers give supervisors a class on labor relations during hub school (PT supervisor training) but I doubt that's still being done.</p><p></p><p>Sort Managers, Division Managers, and Corporate Guys love throwing out the word "panel" to scare union members; i.e. "We'll take this to panel and win," "This wouldn't look good at panel," "We're going to fire this guy and then the panel will uphold it," etc. Their knowledge doesn't really go much further than that and nine times out of ten they are categorically full of <img src="http://*" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /><img src="http://*" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /><img src="http://*" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /><img src="http://*" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" />.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="PiedmontSteward, post: 1179857, member: 42270"] This is a good observation. In my experience, most PT supervisors don't know anything about the contract. FT supervisors know a bit more -- mostly from experience and from getting grieved. Only the sort managers and above seem to be thoroughly trained in labor relations; UPS routinely has their sort managers attend regional grievance panels so they can learn what sort of discipline and terminations stick and which ones don't. I was told the labor managers give supervisors a class on labor relations during hub school (PT supervisor training) but I doubt that's still being done. Sort Managers, Division Managers, and Corporate Guys love throwing out the word "panel" to scare union members; i.e. "We'll take this to panel and win," "This wouldn't look good at panel," "We're going to fire this guy and then the panel will uphold it," etc. Their knowledge doesn't really go much further than that and nine times out of ten they are categorically full of [IMG]*[/IMG][IMG]*[/IMG][IMG]*[/IMG][IMG]*[/IMG]. [/QUOTE]
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