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<blockquote data-quote="ORLY!?!" data-source="post: 1180111" data-attributes="member: 16334"><p>Its a free country, do what you want to do, or feel is best as. </p><p></p><p>I see the need to be in the union as a FT driver, especially here. They get hounded and hunted daily, and often get fired for small things. In my own opinion, being in five years and believing I still dont get paid enough to get run over by the car other then just loading it. </p><p></p><p>The right to work state is a great place to be. You get the job protection and a steward has to still stand up for you. It doesnt matter if your a card carrying union member, you get defended. If you get fired, you can claim its because I'm not union, and thats against the law, so theres double the job protection. Your more likely to get fired as a union member. Why, well its because you should know better. I've seen quite a few get fired for ignorance. </p><p></p><p>As for those FT guys, its a shocker. Yet I dont know a lot of FT guys and gals union issues here. I know a porter that has stoped paying because he doesnt seem the system working for him. I know a 22.3 guy who went out for a long time due to sickness, stoped paying dues, came back and a shop steward pretty much forced him to sign back in. Which is against the law, by the way. You think UPS breaks laws, the union does too, they both do often.</p><p></p><p> As a PT guy, I really dont see the need. I'd rather them fire me anyways, it would be a blessing, really. I feel as a prisoner sent in for life around these parts.</p><p></p><p>As for these hardcore union guys on here. Sure they rag on me about not paying dues and blah, blah blah. Whatever, it doesnt bother in the least bit. They even go as far as to call me a scap, a name, like a child would. How silly, to call people names, and then stand all high a mighty like they have some dignty, respect or honor, please.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ORLY!?!, post: 1180111, member: 16334"] Its a free country, do what you want to do, or feel is best as. I see the need to be in the union as a FT driver, especially here. They get hounded and hunted daily, and often get fired for small things. In my own opinion, being in five years and believing I still dont get paid enough to get run over by the car other then just loading it. The right to work state is a great place to be. You get the job protection and a steward has to still stand up for you. It doesnt matter if your a card carrying union member, you get defended. If you get fired, you can claim its because I'm not union, and thats against the law, so theres double the job protection. Your more likely to get fired as a union member. Why, well its because you should know better. I've seen quite a few get fired for ignorance. As for those FT guys, its a shocker. Yet I dont know a lot of FT guys and gals union issues here. I know a porter that has stoped paying because he doesnt seem the system working for him. I know a 22.3 guy who went out for a long time due to sickness, stoped paying dues, came back and a shop steward pretty much forced him to sign back in. Which is against the law, by the way. You think UPS breaks laws, the union does too, they both do often. As a PT guy, I really dont see the need. I'd rather them fire me anyways, it would be a blessing, really. I feel as a prisoner sent in for life around these parts. As for these hardcore union guys on here. Sure they rag on me about not paying dues and blah, blah blah. Whatever, it doesnt bother in the least bit. They even go as far as to call me a scap, a name, like a child would. How silly, to call people names, and then stand all high a mighty like they have some dignty, respect or honor, please. [/QUOTE]
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