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<blockquote data-quote="DriveInDriveOut" data-source="post: 1181600" data-attributes="member: 44954"><p>I think we're all guilty of oversimplifying the problem. This conversation is devolving into the same BS political rhetoric that keeps real solutions from being proposed.</p><p></p><p>There is probably a lot we can agree on.</p><p>I don't like going to the grocery store and watching people check out using EBT/SNAP cards, and then watching them pay for a second transaction of Bud light with cash, while I can only afford to drink PBR once in a blue moon(no pun intended). I don't like that they are buying a big pack of overpriced individually packaged doritos with their government money, while my entire childhood my parents bought a huge bag of off brand chips and split them up into sandwich bags because it was cheaper. </p><p></p><p>I think we're on the same page that EBT/SNAP cards are a far cry from actual food "stamps" for bread, butter, and milk. </p><p></p><p>However, for a second, let's imagine you're a child in line with those parents. Let's imagine these parents are the only influence you have to define your work ethic and picture of what a parent should be. Then imagine what that child's future children will look like.</p><p></p><p>ShiftingContents you spoke about watching your parents struggle. That implies to me that they were hard working people who fought to provide for you, and THAT is a big part of what shaped your work ethic. Where would you be without them? </p><p></p><p>Generation after generation in a row of people supplementing their low income with federal assistance. Something has to be done to stop the cycle, I completely agree with that. However, if you think federal assistance programs are going to be drastically cut through political process I'm not sure you fully understand the way politics work in America.</p><p></p><p>The reason I brought up properly funding the American education system, is I believe it is probably our single best chance to intervene and stop the cycle of dependence.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DriveInDriveOut, post: 1181600, member: 44954"] I think we're all guilty of oversimplifying the problem. This conversation is devolving into the same BS political rhetoric that keeps real solutions from being proposed. There is probably a lot we can agree on. I don't like going to the grocery store and watching people check out using EBT/SNAP cards, and then watching them pay for a second transaction of Bud light with cash, while I can only afford to drink PBR once in a blue moon(no pun intended). I don't like that they are buying a big pack of overpriced individually packaged doritos with their government money, while my entire childhood my parents bought a huge bag of off brand chips and split them up into sandwich bags because it was cheaper. I think we're on the same page that EBT/SNAP cards are a far cry from actual food "stamps" for bread, butter, and milk. However, for a second, let's imagine you're a child in line with those parents. Let's imagine these parents are the only influence you have to define your work ethic and picture of what a parent should be. Then imagine what that child's future children will look like. ShiftingContents you spoke about watching your parents struggle. That implies to me that they were hard working people who fought to provide for you, and THAT is a big part of what shaped your work ethic. Where would you be without them? Generation after generation in a row of people supplementing their low income with federal assistance. Something has to be done to stop the cycle, I completely agree with that. However, if you think federal assistance programs are going to be drastically cut through political process I'm not sure you fully understand the way politics work in America. The reason I brought up properly funding the American education system, is I believe it is probably our single best chance to intervene and stop the cycle of dependence. [/QUOTE]
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