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To those who accuse Hall of "selling us out"...
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<blockquote data-quote="soberups" data-source="post: 1127077" data-attributes="member: 14668"><p>1. Read the details of the offer in its entirety, including the non-economic language, and then make your choice. If you dont feel its a fair offer, then by all means vote "no."</p><p></p><p>2. Bear in mind that ultimately we will <em>only</em> get the agreement that (a) a majority of the work group will actually be willing <em>go on strike for</em>, (b)that the <em>company</em> believes that we will go on strike for (c) that <em>Hall and Hoffa </em>believe we will go on strike for and (d) that Hall and Hoffa believe that <em>the company believes </em>that we will go out on strike for. Talk is cheap, going on strike costs money.</p><p></p><p>3. The agreement covers 250,000 Teamsters of varying job classifications all over the United States. Not everyone will be 100% satisfied with it.</p><p></p><p>4. Todays job market sucks, the economy is still struggling to gain momentum, and health care costs continue to rise owing to factors beyond the control of either the company or the Union. Trying to divine what will happen to healthcare in the near future is more art than science.</p><p></p><p>5. Ask yourself "what motivation would Hall and Hoffa have to intentionally screw over the membership that elected them?". Put aside any biases you might have against them personally and analyze the offer on its own merits. Unfortunately, it seems as though there are people on this forum who would bash Hoffa even if he invented a cure for cancer. Its getting old. Is this deal all it is being made out to be by the union? Probably not. Is this deal the total ripoff for the membership that it is being made out to be by TDU? Probably not. The truth, as always, lies somewhere in the middle.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="soberups, post: 1127077, member: 14668"] 1. Read the details of the offer in its entirety, including the non-economic language, and then make your choice. If you dont feel its a fair offer, then by all means vote "no." 2. Bear in mind that ultimately we will [I]only[/I] get the agreement that (a) a majority of the work group will actually be willing [I]go on strike for[/I], (b)that the [I]company[/I] believes that we will go on strike for (c) that [I]Hall and Hoffa [/I]believe we will go on strike for and (d) that Hall and Hoffa believe that [I]the company believes [/I]that we will go out on strike for. Talk is cheap, going on strike costs money. 3. The agreement covers 250,000 Teamsters of varying job classifications all over the United States. Not everyone will be 100% satisfied with it. 4. Todays job market sucks, the economy is still struggling to gain momentum, and health care costs continue to rise owing to factors beyond the control of either the company or the Union. Trying to divine what will happen to healthcare in the near future is more art than science. 5. Ask yourself "what motivation would Hall and Hoffa have to intentionally screw over the membership that elected them?". Put aside any biases you might have against them personally and analyze the offer on its own merits. Unfortunately, it seems as though there are people on this forum who would bash Hoffa even if he invented a cure for cancer. Its getting old. Is this deal all it is being made out to be by the union? Probably not. Is this deal the total ripoff for the membership that it is being made out to be by TDU? Probably not. The truth, as always, lies somewhere in the middle. [/QUOTE]
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