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<blockquote data-quote="dannyboy" data-source="post: 679888" data-attributes="member: 484"><p>tie</p><p> </p><p>lets get feelings out of the conversation. feelings are emotions, and have no business being discussed when you talk about ethics. ethics are ethics, regardless of your emotion at the time.</p><p> </p><p>yup, doing the job well is wonderful. and on occasion, where there is an emergency, the contract states you can use a part timer air driver to pick up ground. it is allowed. and everyone is happy.</p><p> </p><p>problem is the following.do i need to ask management to pay me at the end of the week, at the pay rate that i am due?</p><p> </p><p>so why in the hell is management so unethical that she has to ask, much less file, to be paid for work authorized by you, at the pay rate you agreed to pay for that work. you have the ability to pay her at the proper rate, so why do you refuse to do so. what she feels is irrelevant to the conversation. </p><p> </p><p>its like me going out to hire day laborers, agreeing to pay them $100 a day for the work all week. and at the end of the week, instead of paying them $500, i try to slime around getting them to accept $250 instead. that is what you are doing each and every time you violate the contract in this manner.</p><p> </p><p>so i would suggest that while the union has more than its share if unethical issues, where they dont understand ethics, management is by far the leader when it comes to being unethical. and you damn well know that to be true. otherwise, why would you not already have the time coded to pay the girl for what you agreed to pay for the work done?</p><p> </p><p>so dont go throwing ethic stones when you live life in the crystal palace of being blind to ethics yourself.</p><p> </p><p>btw, i also happen to know you personally, and the tie i know and have talked to is above reproach when it comes to personal integrity and ethics. so the support you have given to this point of view is puzzling.</p><p> </p><p>d</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="dannyboy, post: 679888, member: 484"] tie lets get feelings out of the conversation. feelings are emotions, and have no business being discussed when you talk about ethics. ethics are ethics, regardless of your emotion at the time. yup, doing the job well is wonderful. and on occasion, where there is an emergency, the contract states you can use a part timer air driver to pick up ground. it is allowed. and everyone is happy. problem is the following.do i need to ask management to pay me at the end of the week, at the pay rate that i am due? so why in the hell is management so unethical that she has to ask, much less file, to be paid for work authorized by you, at the pay rate you agreed to pay for that work. you have the ability to pay her at the proper rate, so why do you refuse to do so. what she feels is irrelevant to the conversation. its like me going out to hire day laborers, agreeing to pay them $100 a day for the work all week. and at the end of the week, instead of paying them $500, i try to slime around getting them to accept $250 instead. that is what you are doing each and every time you violate the contract in this manner. so i would suggest that while the union has more than its share if unethical issues, where they dont understand ethics, management is by far the leader when it comes to being unethical. and you damn well know that to be true. otherwise, why would you not already have the time coded to pay the girl for what you agreed to pay for the work done? so dont go throwing ethic stones when you live life in the crystal palace of being blind to ethics yourself. btw, i also happen to know you personally, and the tie i know and have talked to is above reproach when it comes to personal integrity and ethics. so the support you have given to this point of view is puzzling. d [/QUOTE]
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