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<blockquote data-quote="959Nanook" data-source="post: 1371826" data-attributes="member: 14462"><p>Your proposal is quite different and much more expansive than the the OP's question about returning to his original building now that Operations are stabilizing after Center expansion (which I assume is in the same Local). </p><p></p><p>Aside from the fact that the Teamsters have NO vested interest in your proposal so they aren't going to bother to support it (especially Locals that are on the short end of the stick), what is simple about it? It is an HR disaster for UPS that would be forever chaotic trying to get the correct amount of pension contributions to the correct Pension Trusts. What happens when the next round of contract negotiations roll around? Which contract would a transferred Teamster vote... his shop's Local or his Pension Trust's Local? How does the transferred Teamster vote in Local elections since he is now represented by two Locals... does the Teamster vote both Locals? If the Teamster votes both elections because the Teamster has a CONCURRENT vested interest in both Locals, does the Teamster pay dues in both Locals? This is just the highlights of the nightmare that the Teamsters want no part of.</p><p></p><p>Personal example... I have two pensions (Local and Western) that exceed Central Region pensions by a mile with seven years seniority in Package and three years seniority in Feeder. I have an ailing father in Missouri (true story)... I should be able to transfer to Missouri for the next opening in Package near my father AND bring my pension with me? Central States Region is reason enough why nationwide transfers for Teamsters won't happen much less dragging pensions along in the process. The animosity would be so thick that it would be unbearable so what would the point be?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Sent using BrownCafe App</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="959Nanook, post: 1371826, member: 14462"] Your proposal is quite different and much more expansive than the the OP's question about returning to his original building now that Operations are stabilizing after Center expansion (which I assume is in the same Local). Aside from the fact that the Teamsters have NO vested interest in your proposal so they aren't going to bother to support it (especially Locals that are on the short end of the stick), what is simple about it? It is an HR disaster for UPS that would be forever chaotic trying to get the correct amount of pension contributions to the correct Pension Trusts. What happens when the next round of contract negotiations roll around? Which contract would a transferred Teamster vote... his shop's Local or his Pension Trust's Local? How does the transferred Teamster vote in Local elections since he is now represented by two Locals... does the Teamster vote both Locals? If the Teamster votes both elections because the Teamster has a CONCURRENT vested interest in both Locals, does the Teamster pay dues in both Locals? This is just the highlights of the nightmare that the Teamsters want no part of. Personal example... I have two pensions (Local and Western) that exceed Central Region pensions by a mile with seven years seniority in Package and three years seniority in Feeder. I have an ailing father in Missouri (true story)... I should be able to transfer to Missouri for the next opening in Package near my father AND bring my pension with me? Central States Region is reason enough why nationwide transfers for Teamsters won't happen much less dragging pensions along in the process. The animosity would be so thick that it would be unbearable so what would the point be? Sent using BrownCafe App [/QUOTE]
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