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<blockquote data-quote="atatbl" data-source="post: 470223" data-attributes="member: 12890"><p>Based on your responses I see that you do, in fact, have a more rational approach to this than I originally gauged from your previous posts. Let me know what you think about this. This is how I see it from hundreds of miles away, with limited communication to people actually inside your local. </p><p></p><p>Almost nothing is done amicably between your local and UPS. The first sign of a disagreement leads both parties to go straight for the jugular. You grieve everything to the letter, UPS stalls and deadlocks. UPS makes plays that are based on very loose interpretations of the contract, you entrench yourselves in an opposite stance. </p><p></p><p>When management and union workers step onto UPS property in the morning, everyone is thinking the same thing: "I feel the exact opposite of whatever the 'other side' says today." In all actuality, this feeling probably starts as soon as either party wakes up in the morning, without even realizing it. You have to get a little bit numb to it, it's how people survive a life of working in these specific environments. I am not implying that either side is wrong in feeling this way. I just think it would be impossible for most people to admit to themselves, let alone others.</p><p></p><p>This would naturally lead to a seemingly never-ending game of one-up-manship. </p><p></p><p>I would be interested to hear how much of this is correct from your viewpoint. </p><p></p><p>As for me, you are partially right. I would not say that I have ever been wronged in a manner as grave as the one your retirees face. However, I would imagine I would TRY to understand the situation for what it is. If what I have described is at all accurate I would try to be much less emotional than I see your members behaving on here. I personally believe that taking emotion out of this situation gives you a leg-up in the pissing match. Again, that is only my stance. The people that I see "win" these types of situations have a "wont-back-down" and "I don't give a $h1t" attitude..... Not the lazy, 'I don't care' type or the 'insane' type.... More the 'alpha male' and controlled type of attitude..... If that makes any sense. This is only my experience though.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="atatbl, post: 470223, member: 12890"] Based on your responses I see that you do, in fact, have a more rational approach to this than I originally gauged from your previous posts. Let me know what you think about this. This is how I see it from hundreds of miles away, with limited communication to people actually inside your local. Almost nothing is done amicably between your local and UPS. The first sign of a disagreement leads both parties to go straight for the jugular. You grieve everything to the letter, UPS stalls and deadlocks. UPS makes plays that are based on very loose interpretations of the contract, you entrench yourselves in an opposite stance. When management and union workers step onto UPS property in the morning, everyone is thinking the same thing: "I feel the exact opposite of whatever the 'other side' says today." In all actuality, this feeling probably starts as soon as either party wakes up in the morning, without even realizing it. You have to get a little bit numb to it, it's how people survive a life of working in these specific environments. I am not implying that either side is wrong in feeling this way. I just think it would be impossible for most people to admit to themselves, let alone others. This would naturally lead to a seemingly never-ending game of one-up-manship. I would be interested to hear how much of this is correct from your viewpoint. As for me, you are partially right. I would not say that I have ever been wronged in a manner as grave as the one your retirees face. However, I would imagine I would TRY to understand the situation for what it is. If what I have described is at all accurate I would try to be much less emotional than I see your members behaving on here. I personally believe that taking emotion out of this situation gives you a leg-up in the pissing match. Again, that is only my stance. The people that I see "win" these types of situations have a "wont-back-down" and "I don't give a $h1t" attitude..... Not the lazy, 'I don't care' type or the 'insane' type.... More the 'alpha male' and controlled type of attitude..... If that makes any sense. This is only my experience though. [/QUOTE]
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