Two tier wage system, who does it affect?

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

This "bonus" is heavily taxed so it's not as "sweet" as it seems.

The same bonus we got 30 years ago?

Remember dump the lump?

 

[MAKAVELI]

The day you guys accept a two tier wage system is the day you guys drop to FedEx's level. IMOP

 

[Coldworld]

Correct. Meant 4 billion for the yr 2015. Thanks

Ups would so the exact same if they made 1 billion in profit or 100 billion.....they wouldn't treat us any differently...

 

[Coldworld]

I put 15% weekly in my 401K. When I retire I'm expecting no pension the way things are going. Sorry to hear of your PLIGHT. Again, it's comical to think a driver with 9yrs FT seniority is being told your pay is being cut 6,7, or 8 dollars an hour.

That is worthy of striking in my book....

 

[Coldworld]

Wrong. 99% of us earned this job by working part time for a decade or more. We are not entitled. We effing earned it. This is where you go yawn. But its true. You don't understand because you walked in straight to full time. I leave my house at 7 am and get home at 9 pm. Nobody I know says I'm paid too much. So what people think that we are over paid? Only comments I ever get are how hard we work and that we earn our money. You probably hear these comments that no one else hears because nobody respects you.

Nope you are right!!! Dave even admitted that he wouldn't have been able to work pt for years waiting for a driving job because he had a family to feed .....ayfkm???

 

[Coldworld]

Did I forget to mention the signing bonus that they will throw in to sweeten the pot?

$500 for PTers, $1K for FTers.

1 k is chump change ....want 40k like the pilots received!!!

 

[scratch]

The pilots got $60K, they have a better union representing them!

 

[Coldworld]

The pilots got $60K, they have a better union representing them!

Didn't they break away from the teamsters and the ipa is made up from ups pilots only

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

This "bonus" is heavily taxed so it's not as "sweet" as it seems.

You and I know that.

PTer sees $500 and their eyes light up.

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

1 k is chump change ....want 40k like the pilots received!!!

The pilots got $60K, they have a better union representing them!

They actually lost money--- the $60K was in lieu of back pay.

 

[Billy Ray]

First of all I NEVER said that! And I was also speaking to driverless vehicles, not the myriad of other distractions in vehicles WITH drivers.

Your driverless vehicle will be out there with all the idiots, expecting them to conform within normal and reasonable operating parameters.

See any problem with that?

 

[Orion inc.]

They actually lost money--- the $60K was in lieu of back pay.

But their overall contract is much better and they'll be in better shape than they were before.

They came out ahead overall otherwise I believe they would of struck.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

But their overall contract is much better and they'll be in better shape than they were before.

They came out ahead overall otherwise I believe they would of struck.

Unless you retired in the meantime

 

[Orion inc.]

Unless you retired in the meantime

im betting most held that decision off until this was settled.

The pilots are a smart bunch I'm gathering. They did well in their negotiations from what I read.

 

[Coldworld]

You and I know that.

PTer sees $500 and their eyes light up.

Actually they would get more excited if they were given a Dozen marijuana joints....priorities

 

[Coldworld]

They actually lost money--- the $60K was in lieu of back pay.

Who you hear that from??

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

Who you hear that from??

Home page on this forum.

 

[Brisket]

Your driverless vehicle will be out there with all the idiots, expecting them to conform within normal and reasonable operating parameters.

See any problem with that?

WRONG, you misunderstood me... I was the one who said I would be scared silly looking over at a driverless tractor trailer or package car and NOT knowing if the sensors in it would be working correctly to stop that vehicle...

 

[ManInBrown]

That is worthy of striking in my book....

Of course it's worthy of a strike. I'm sorry about retirees having their pensions slashed, but again, I am expecting no pension when i retire. I put 15% in my 401k weekly. Big difference IMO between retirees having their pension slashed and active employees with 9 years FT seniority being told their hourly wage is being slashed 8-9 dollars an hour. WOULD NEVER HAPPEN. I would quit on the spot.

I don't care what anyone says. If they do try to implement a two tier wage system for new FT employees, it will NEVER WORK. No sane person is doing what we do for 25 bucks an hour. You will have a revolving door of people doing it for 3 days and quitting. The guys and gals in the FedEx forum would never put up with the BS and the harassment and the 12 hour days for 25 bucks an hour. People will do it for 3 days and then not show up on Day 4. FACT

 

[Coldworld]

They actually lost money--- the $60K was in lieu of back pay.

Why would they agree on that....ups makes them wait forever and then waves a bonus in their face ...these are educated men and women why would they allow that .. Had to be a trade for something else