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<blockquote data-quote="wkmac" data-source="post: 361209" data-attributes="member: 2189"><p>OK Tie, I'll play with ya for a moment. August 2005', Yale University released a report entitled, "Osama's Endgame Approaches" and the report covers a lot of ground. Now in seeing Yale you are thinking "liberal hack job" you best stop now. The report comes across very clinical and at least to me doesn't seem pro or con to current policy. In fact and not sure you'll understand this without looking at the mideast from purely a strategic and tactical POV, I'd argue the article supports current Iraq policy without even saying so. But that's looking from outside the normal box and most people will not like that perspective, even some here who support the current pollicy.</p><p></p><p>Now that said, consider just this from the report:</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Yes, in and of itself it's no means conclusive but you have to look beyond and there is more. Lot's more and no I'm not going to post it all so stop rolling the eyes and kicking yourself for opening the box for me.<img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/FeltTip/wink.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":wink2:" title="Wink :wink2:" data-shortname=":wink2:" /></p><p></p><p>Consider this, what happens to the price of oil when the wrong person just farts? Gas goes up! Food goes up! Economic pressures go up! Yeah, we all know the drill. OK, what happens when the markets and the oil speculators see news stories like these?</p><p></p><p>From 2006'</p><p><a href="http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,225924,00.html" target="_blank"><span style="color: red"><strong>http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,225924,00.html</strong></span></a></p><p></p><p>From 2004' read the 1st paragraph after the bullets points</p><p><a href="http://www.jcpa.org/brief/brief3-26.htm" target="_blank"><span style="color: red"><strong>http://www.jcpa.org/brief/brief3-26.htm</strong></span></a></p><p></p><p>From 2006'</p><p><a href="http://www.jamestown.org/terrorism/news/article.php?articleid=2369910" target="_blank"><span style="color: red"><strong>http://www.jamestown.org/terrorism/news/article.php?articleid=2369910</strong></span></a></p><p></p><p>How gleefully, since he hates the Persians and Shia' anyway, does Osama act when he hears talk from Israel and the US about attacking Iran and then the speculators hear that fart again and up goes the gas! Several weeks ago, oil shot up massively in one day and the stock market tanked all because an Israeli official said an assault on Iran was as good as a done deal. Hasn't backed off since either, markets or the talk.</p><p></p><p>Osama knows for him to strike in the same manner as 9/11 would unleash a monster he does not want to face at this time nor is he even prepared to face. Osama learned the game of psy-ops very well and all he needs to do right now is make the illusion of threat (his version of Reagan Star Wars) and the economic chaos that falls out from it as it was pointed out is more effective than any WMD because the use of WMD would be followed by an all out "take no prisoners" assualt but in economic warfare, there is no direct response while you sit back and enjoy further weakening of your enemy. The first rule of successful warfare is the ability to pay for it. Osama watched from a front row seat that rule play out with the old Soviet empire.</p><p></p><p>IMO Bush made a major mistake in back burnering Bin Laden several years ago and instead trying to re-create the Mideast military footprint in Iraq that we gave up in Saudi after the first gulf war. That's that "outside the box view" I was talking about. Bush has either woke up or trying to save a legacy (I think he woke up myself and he even sidetracked Cheney on North Korea and Cheney didn't like it) and now has decided to go after Osama. If he can get him and the Al Qaeda leadership, the defense contractors will have lost their goose with the golden egg but the American consumer and business will get relief from oil prices as the market bubble will burst big time. Bush now knows this could let him leave office a lot closer to looking like a hero and if he can get it done, I'll applaud him too! I'm just proud of him for stiffing Cheney!<img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/FeltTip/happy-very.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":happy-very:" title="Happy Very :happy-very:" data-shortname=":happy-very:" /></p><p></p><p>JMO!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="wkmac, post: 361209, member: 2189"] OK Tie, I'll play with ya for a moment. August 2005', Yale University released a report entitled, "Osama's Endgame Approaches" and the report covers a lot of ground. Now in seeing Yale you are thinking "liberal hack job" you best stop now. The report comes across very clinical and at least to me doesn't seem pro or con to current policy. In fact and not sure you'll understand this without looking at the mideast from purely a strategic and tactical POV, I'd argue the article supports current Iraq policy without even saying so. But that's looking from outside the normal box and most people will not like that perspective, even some here who support the current pollicy. Now that said, consider just this from the report: Yes, in and of itself it's no means conclusive but you have to look beyond and there is more. Lot's more and no I'm not going to post it all so stop rolling the eyes and kicking yourself for opening the box for me.:wink2: Consider this, what happens to the price of oil when the wrong person just farts? Gas goes up! Food goes up! Economic pressures go up! Yeah, we all know the drill. OK, what happens when the markets and the oil speculators see news stories like these? From 2006' [URL='http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,225924,00.html'][COLOR=red][B]http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,225924,00.html[/B][/COLOR][/URL] From 2004' read the 1st paragraph after the bullets points [URL='http://www.jcpa.org/brief/brief3-26.htm'][COLOR=red][B]http://www.jcpa.org/brief/brief3-26.htm[/B][/COLOR][/URL] From 2006' [URL='http://www.jamestown.org/terrorism/news/article.php?articleid=2369910'][COLOR=red][B]http://www.jamestown.org/terrorism/news/article.php?articleid=2369910[/B][/COLOR][/URL] How gleefully, since he hates the Persians and Shia' anyway, does Osama act when he hears talk from Israel and the US about attacking Iran and then the speculators hear that fart again and up goes the gas! Several weeks ago, oil shot up massively in one day and the stock market tanked all because an Israeli official said an assault on Iran was as good as a done deal. Hasn't backed off since either, markets or the talk. Osama knows for him to strike in the same manner as 9/11 would unleash a monster he does not want to face at this time nor is he even prepared to face. Osama learned the game of psy-ops very well and all he needs to do right now is make the illusion of threat (his version of Reagan Star Wars) and the economic chaos that falls out from it as it was pointed out is more effective than any WMD because the use of WMD would be followed by an all out "take no prisoners" assualt but in economic warfare, there is no direct response while you sit back and enjoy further weakening of your enemy. The first rule of successful warfare is the ability to pay for it. Osama watched from a front row seat that rule play out with the old Soviet empire. IMO Bush made a major mistake in back burnering Bin Laden several years ago and instead trying to re-create the Mideast military footprint in Iraq that we gave up in Saudi after the first gulf war. That's that "outside the box view" I was talking about. Bush has either woke up or trying to save a legacy (I think he woke up myself and he even sidetracked Cheney on North Korea and Cheney didn't like it) and now has decided to go after Osama. If he can get him and the Al Qaeda leadership, the defense contractors will have lost their goose with the golden egg but the American consumer and business will get relief from oil prices as the market bubble will burst big time. Bush now knows this could let him leave office a lot closer to looking like a hero and if he can get it done, I'll applaud him too! I'm just proud of him for stiffing Cheney!:happy-very: JMO! [/QUOTE]
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