UPS air hub votes

Discussion in 'UPS Union Issues' started by ups clerk, Apr 14, 2014.

  1. ups clerk

    ups clerk Member

    I had heard that if less than 50 percent voted and it still got turned down, the Teamster constitution bi laws says it can over ride the vote and pass that part of the contract. Well there are 8000 union members at the air hub and about 3000 voted which makes it less than 50 percent. So now what?
    Anyone want to check on this?
     
  2. grgrcr88

    grgrcr88 No It's not green grocer!

    Pretty sure that language is only used if there is a strike authorization vote which there has not been yet.
     
  3. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    The Union will step in and impose the last offer as their new supplement.


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  4. grgrcr88

    grgrcr88 No It's not green grocer!


    That would be political suicide for the Hoffa administration.
     
  5. grgrcr88

    grgrcr88 No It's not green grocer!

    Here it is word for word from the IBT Constitution.
    Article 12 page 89(no I didn't make that up!!)


    Section 1(a). When any difficulty or dispute arises
    between the members of any Local Union and their
    employers, it shall be the duty of the officers of such
    Local Union to use every possible means of achieving a
    settlement or resolution of the difficulty or dispute
    through the processes of collective bargaining.
    (b). Agreements shall either be accepted by a majori-
    ty vote of those members involved in negotiations and
    voting, or a majority of such members shall direct fur-
    ther negotiations before a final vote on the employer’s
    offer is taken, as directed by the Local Union Executive
    Board. During negotiations, the Local Union Executive
    Board may order a secret ballot strike vote to be taken
    and when, in the judgment of the Local Union Execu-
    tive Board, an employer has made a final offer of settle-
    ment, such offer must be submitted to the involved
    membership for a secret ballot vote as hereinafter
    provided:

    (1) If at least one half of the members eligible to vote
    cast valid ballots, then a cumulative majority of those vot-
    ing in favor of the final offer shall result in acceptance of
    such offer; and a cumulative majority of those voting
    against acceptance of the final offer shall authorize a strike
    without any additional vote being necessary for such strike
    authorization. In the event of a tie vote on either a motion
    to accept a final offer or to strike, the Local Union
    Executive Board shall conduct a second vote. If the result
    of the second vote is a tie, the Local Union Executive Board
    shall have the discretion to either accept the final offer or
    reject the final offer and authorize a strike at such time as it
    determines.

    (2) If less than half of the eligible members cast valid
    ballots, then a two-thirds (2/3) vote of those voting shall
    be required to reject such final offer and to authorize a
    strike. The failure of such membership to reject the final
    offer and to authorize a strike as herein provided shall
    require the Local Union Executive Board to accept such
    final offer or such additional provisions as can be nego-
    tiated by it.

    When the final offer has been rejected in accordance
    with this Section, it shall constitute authorization for a
    strike at such time and under such terms and conditions as
    the Local Union Executive Board may determine.

    Any question arising from the application or inter-
    pretation of this Section shall be decided by the General
    President whose decision shall be final
     
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  6. oldngray

    oldngray nowhere special

    (2) If less than half of the eligible members cast valid
    ballots, then a two-thirds (2/3) vote of those voting shall
    be required to reject such final offer and to authorize a
    strike.

    Exactly what happened so the local did authorize a strike.
     
  7. BrownBrokeDown

    BrownBrokeDown Active Member

    It states in there that it applies if it is the final offer by the employer. Do we know for sure, that it was UPS's final offer? Is there going to be another offer, which would be actually the 3rd offer? If it is the final offer, then yeah, sounds like they met the requirements for a strike.
     
  8. oldngray

    oldngray nowhere special

    UPS always claims last best offer but almost always will make another offer.
     
  9. Xexys

    Xexys Retired and Happy


    Do you ever read anything before you open your mouth?
     
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  10. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    I thought this was Hoffa's last term anyway.
     
  11. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    Last time I checked this was a text-based forum.
     
  12. PT Stewie

    PT Stewie "Big Fella"

    Read Article XII Section 2 of the IBT Constitution very confusing what may happen .One thing for sure the master agreement is binding.
     
  13. Xexys

    Xexys Retired and Happy


    Skirt the issue with a sly joke.
     
  14. grgrcr88

    grgrcr88 No It's not green grocer!


    Only if it was presented for vote as a last, best final, offer by the Local Executive board.
     
  15. Inthegame

    Inthegame Well-Known Member

    Right, because L89 is part of the National UPS contract, their supplement falls under Art 12 Sec 2. (see Sec 2(b) third paragraph) The National Negotiation Committee has responsibilities now, not the Local Union E-Board. And Art 12 Sec 2 (f) gives the GP and GEB lots of leeway.
    BTW, The National Committee is meeting again next week.
     
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