UPS air hub votes

ups clerk

Well-Known Member
I had heard that if less than 50 percent voted and it still got turned down, the Teamster constitution bi laws says it can over ride the vote and pass that part of the contract. Well there are 8000 union members at the air hub and about 3000 voted which makes it less than 50 percent. So now what?
Anyone want to check on this?
 

grgrcr88

No It's not green grocer!
Pretty sure that language is only used if there is a strike authorization vote which there has not been yet.
 

grgrcr88

No It's not green grocer!
Here it is word for word from the IBT Constitution.
Article 12 page 89(no I didn't make that up!!)


Section 1(a). When any difficulty or dispute arises
between the members of any Local Union and their
employers, it shall be the duty of the officers of such
Local Union to use every possible means of achieving a
settlement or resolution of the difficulty or dispute
through the processes of collective bargaining.
(b). Agreements shall either be accepted by a majori-
ty vote of those members involved in negotiations and
voting, or a majority of such members shall direct fur-
ther negotiations before a final vote on the employer’s
offer is taken, as directed by the Local Union Executive
Board. During negotiations, the Local Union Executive
Board may order a secret ballot strike vote to be taken
and when, in the judgment of the Local Union Execu-
tive Board, an employer has made a final offer of settle-
ment, such offer must be submitted to the involved
membership for a secret ballot vote as hereinafter
provided:

(1) If at least one half of the members eligible to vote
cast valid ballots, then a cumulative majority of those vot-
ing in favor of the final offer shall result in acceptance of
such offer; and a cumulative majority of those voting
against acceptance of the final offer shall authorize a strike
without any additional vote being necessary for such strike
authorization. In the event of a tie vote on either a motion
to accept a final offer or to strike, the Local Union
Executive Board shall conduct a second vote. If the result
of the second vote is a tie, the Local Union Executive Board
shall have the discretion to either accept the final offer or
reject the final offer and authorize a strike at such time as it
determines.

(2) If less than half of the eligible members cast valid
ballots, then a two-thirds (2/3) vote of those voting shall
be required to reject such final offer and to authorize a
strike. The failure of such membership to reject the final
offer and to authorize a strike as herein provided shall
require the Local Union Executive Board to accept such
final offer or such additional provisions as can be nego-
tiated by it.

When the final offer has been rejected in accordance
with this Section, it shall constitute authorization for a
strike at such time and under such terms and conditions as
the Local Union Executive Board may determine.

Any question arising from the application or inter-
pretation of this Section shall be decided by the General
President whose decision shall be final
 

oldngray

nowhere special
Here it is word for word from the IBT Constitution.
Article 12 page 89(no I didn't make that up!!)


Section 1(a). When any difficulty or dispute arises
between the members of any Local Union and their
employers, it shall be the duty of the officers of such
Local Union to use every possible means of achieving a
settlement or resolution of the difficulty or dispute
through the processes of collective bargaining.
(b). Agreements shall either be accepted by a majori-
ty vote of those members involved in negotiations and
voting, or a majority of such members shall direct fur-
ther negotiations before a final vote on the employer’s
offer is taken, as directed by the Local Union Executive
Board. During negotiations, the Local Union Executive
Board may order a secret ballot strike vote to be taken
and when, in the judgment of the Local Union Execu-
tive Board, an employer has made a final offer of settle-
ment, such offer must be submitted to the involved
membership for a secret ballot vote as hereinafter
provided:

(1) If at least one half of the members eligible to vote
cast valid ballots, then a cumulative majority of those vot-
ing in favor of the final offer shall result in acceptance of
such offer; and a cumulative majority of those voting
against acceptance of the final offer shall authorize a strike
without any additional vote being necessary for such strike
authorization. In the event of a tie vote on either a motion
to accept a final offer or to strike, the Local Union
Executive Board shall conduct a second vote. If the result
of the second vote is a tie, the Local Union Executive Board
shall have the discretion to either accept the final offer or
reject the final offer and authorize a strike at such time as it
determines.

(2) If less than half of the eligible members cast valid
ballots, then a two-thirds (2/3) vote of those voting shall
be required to reject such final offer and to authorize a
strike. The failure of such membership to reject the final
offer and to authorize a strike as herein provided shall
require the Local Union Executive Board to accept such
final offer or such additional provisions as can be nego-
tiated by it.

When the final offer has been rejected in accordance
with this Section, it shall constitute authorization for a
strike at such time and under such terms and conditions as
the Local Union Executive Board may determine.

Any question arising from the application or inter-
pretation of this Section shall be decided by the General
President whose decision shall be final

(2) If less than half of the eligible members cast valid
ballots, then a two-thirds (2/3) vote of those voting shall
be required to reject such final offer and to authorize a
strike.

Exactly what happened so the local did authorize a strike.
 

BrownBrokeDown

Well-Known Member
(2) If less than half of the eligible members cast valid
ballots, then a two-thirds (2/3) vote of those voting shall
be required to reject such final offer and to authorize a
strike.

Exactly what happened so the local did authorize a strike.
It states in there that it applies if it is the final offer by the employer. Do we know for sure, that it was UPS's final offer? Is there going to be another offer, which would be actually the 3rd offer? If it is the final offer, then yeah, sounds like they met the requirements for a strike.
 

PT Stewie

"Big Fella"
Read Article XII Section 2 of the IBT Constitution very confusing what may happen .One thing for sure the master agreement is binding.
 

grgrcr88

No It's not green grocer!
(2) If less than half of the eligible members cast valid
ballots, then a two-thirds (2/3) vote of those voting shall
be required to reject such final offer and to authorize a
strike.

Exactly what happened so the local did authorize a strike.


Only if it was presented for vote as a last, best final, offer by the Local Executive board.
 

Inthegame

Well-Known Member
Read Article XII Section 2 of the IBT Constitution very confusing what may happen .One thing for sure the master agreement is binding.
Right, because L89 is part of the National UPS contract, their supplement falls under Art 12 Sec 2. (see Sec 2(b) third paragraph) The National Negotiation Committee has responsibilities now, not the Local Union E-Board. And Art 12 Sec 2 (friend) gives the GP and GEB lots of leeway.
BTW, The National Committee is meeting again next week.
 
Right, because L89 is part of the National UPS contract, their supplement falls under Art 12 Sec 2. (see Sec 2(b) third paragraph) The National Negotiation Committee has responsibilities now, not the Local Union E-Board. And Art 12 Sec 2 (friend) gives the GP and GEB lots of leeway.
BTW, The National Committee is meeting again next week.
Ding ding. We have a winner.
 
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