UPS Basic expanding?

Discussion in 'UPS Discussions' started by Red Dawn, Feb 12, 2011.

  1. Red Dawn

    Red Dawn Member

    This week we had a new change our labels on preload. We are told that if a package has a + sign in between the drivers name and sequence number, then it is to be sorted to small sort. No matter the size.

    In small sort their is 6-7 IE workers sorting the packages into a new bags. They are not the same bags we use for smalls. They also us Velcro to close them up with.

    Have been told that this volume is going to the United States Post Office. They will now be delivering this volume. My sup. said he was told it is going to take 1/5 of volume off our drivers.

    I also asked one of the IE guys if this was a temporary, or test....he said "no, this is on from here on out"

    I'm sure our package car drivers will like this for now. But will cost us in new drivers now and later they will cut more drivers as this grows.

    Anyone else seen this? Looked at shipers..all dif. companys abc ltd landsend etc
     
  2. Monkey Butt

    Monkey Butt You can call me Chappy Staff Member

    Are you SURE about this POST?
     
  3. curiousbrain

    curiousbrain Well-Known Member

    Might be the new SurePost?

    Some vague details can be found via Google, and also on this thread, starting around post #9.

    I could be mistaken, though.
     
  4. pretzel_man

    pretzel_man Well-Known Member

     
  5. over9five

    over9five Moderator Staff Member

    x2
     
  6. Anonymous 10

    Anonymous 10 Guest

    +3
     
  7. Funfact

    Funfact Well-Known Member

    My SUP mentioned this Thursday and Friday. Starting this week when you deliver to the post office you only need to scan the label on the out side of the new burlap type bag you don't need to scan all the packages in the bag. As for the volume increase to the post office as I see it the post office is going to be paying alot more OT or have to hire more drivers to cover the increase in volume. Either way it just adds to thiee problem they can't even get close to paying their overhead now even with all the early retirements and consolidations.
     
  8. pretzel_man

    pretzel_man Well-Known Member

    I don't know a lot about this, but why will it increase drivers? They already go to every address? Unless their trucks are overfilled, It will not cost them extra?

    Seems to me that if you had an extra 3 packages to deliver, and every one was just one more to an address you were already going to, it would not add time?

    Its about the same impact to them (if my math is close)
     
  9. curiousbrain

    curiousbrain Well-Known Member

    The drivers here can speak to this with more authority than I can, but if the logic your proposing is true, then a 180 stop route with 1 package for each should not take any longer then a 180 stop route with 5 packages for each? Not that you asked for my opinion, but I seem skeptical of that.

    edit: Although, with a little further thought, it does stand to reason that three extra packages total would not be a problem; it was the three extra per stop I was considering when I wrote the initial post.
     
  10. Funfact

    Funfact Well-Known Member

    It take more time to deliver packages then envelopes. How many package can a mailman carry in his satekel not many but he can car hundreds of letters. Also have you seen the size of a postal service car. I have more space in my cab they they have in there whole car.
     
  11. Anonymous 10

    Anonymous 10 Guest

    What comes to mind when I hear about this new service and partnership. Train wreck
     
  12. Funfact

    Funfact Well-Known Member

    great analogy brownbaggin
     
  13. pretzel_man

    pretzel_man Well-Known Member

    It depends on the scale. There are 338,000 mail carriers there. 1 million smalls is about three extra smalls per mail carrier. To an address they are already going to.

    I seriously doubt it will add any extra people.
     
  14. curiousbrain

    curiousbrain Well-Known Member

    That's assuming an equal distribution throughout the whole network of mail carriers, though. I would be more apt to consider that metropolitan carriers would be weighed down with ... and I'm making this number up out of whole cloth ... 10% or so? That is to say, urban mail carriers would see a disproportionate increase.
     
  15. pretzel_man

    pretzel_man Well-Known Member

    Rural carriers will see the largest increase. Even if my numbers are off by 100%, a million packages is 6 per affected carrier. 6 smalls total....
     
  16. curiousbrain

    curiousbrain Well-Known Member

    Why would you say that? It's possible I just missed something in this thread or the other one or two threads that discussed this topic, so I reserve the right to be wrong, but my basic question is why would rural carriers see the increase not the urban ones - proximity of stops or ... ?
     
  17. Anonymous 10

    Anonymous 10 Guest

    I think ups just might have found there next form of rural remote.
     
  18. pretzel_man

    pretzel_man Well-Known Member

    Maybe you are correct. Its certainly a product for residential deliveries, but I did not see anything that said Rural.
     
  19. Funfact

    Funfact Well-Known Member

    What package get delivered by the post office isn't determined by UPS the shipper who has the ability to ship basic packages determines that.
     
  20. Anonymous 10

    Anonymous 10 Guest

    Oh ok keep telling yourself that.