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UPS Contract to be re-negotiated?

Discussion in 'UPS Union Issues' started by carlchien, Jun 23, 2013.

  1. carlchien

    carlchien New Member

    Current Results - (Renegotiations???)

    Appoximately 57% Yes and 43% No on Master Agreement, Good Luck all Teamster Fellows.....:sad-very:
  2. TheKid

    TheKid Active Member

    re: Current Results - (Renegotiations???)

    Another 5 good years for me
  3. 10 2 go

    10 2 go In control of my own destiny

    re: Current Results - (Renegotiations???)

    Let's see how they enforce it now. Still see a target on 20 plus drivers.
  4. opie

    opie Member

    re: Current Results - (Renegotiations???)

    TDU is now saying the national master agreement will be renegotiated. Ken Hall must go back to the table. That the national agreement can't be signed. With so many supplements and riders being rejected, they must fix the issues, and we will revote...is this really possible?
  5. PT Stewie

    PT Stewie "Big Fella"

    re: Current Results - (Renegotiations???)

    ​NO
  6. 407steward

    407steward Two eggs short of the omelet

    re: Current Results - (Renegotiations???)

    Nope TDU needs to get a clue if they actually said this.
  7. Bagels

    Bagels Family Leave Fridays!!!

    re: Current Results - (Renegotiations???)

    TDU has a pretty liberal interpretation of the IBT Constitution:

    In the event such a special rider or supplement is not approved by the
    affected members, and the master agreement is ratified,
    the supplemental negotiating committee shall meet
    with the master negotiating committee to identify the
    issues which resulted in the rejection of the special rider
    or supplement. The master negotiating committee shall
    assist the supplemental negotiating committee when
    bargaining resumes with the employer in an effort to
    resolve the issues.

    -----

    UPDATE: TDU's view is that because members are so angry with the national contract, their respective supplements & riders will not pass - therefore Hall needs to re-negotiate the national.
  8. opie

    opie Member

    re: Current Results - (Renegotiations???)

    So it sounds like those supplements that got rejected, they will obviously renegotiate. But will they be able to fix the healthcare issue to get members to approve for the supplemental revote? There now has to be some type of improvements made to the proposed benefits, because this is the main reason why so many supplements were rejected.
  9. over9five

    over9five Senior Member

    re: Current Results - (Renegotiations???)

    ​Don't see that happening!
  10. Brownslave688

    Brownslave688 You want a toe? I can get you a toe.

    Why would it put a target on guys that are that close to retirement and will get their money anyway.

    I see a target on the 5-15 year drivers. The company has little invested in them and can hire someone that won't top out until the end of this contract almost.
  11. carlchien

    carlchien New Member

    re: Current Results - (Renegotiations???)

    The Secretary Treasurer from my Local just told me that "Fourteen supplements have been rejected nationwide by the members ( ours is one of them). The National contract cannot be signed until those are all fixed and voted in favor of."
  12. Eman1978

    Eman1978 New Member

    So the national cant be signed until every supplement votes yes?
  13. Hoffa SUX

    Hoffa SUX Active Member

    re: Current Results - (Renegotiations???)

    That is correct about the healthcare.

    Us in Southern California not only rejected our Southwest Rider, but also the Western Conference. So we can now renegotiate our own Healthcare Fund, be it in the Southwest Rider or Western Conference. Therefore, we won't go into the TEAMcare Hoffa, Hall and Andy Marshall were trying to shove down our throats.

    Also got word that there's approximately 5,000 ballots from Local 89. If the National Master Passes, it will pass with under 5,000 votes.
  14. The Milkman

    The Milkman Active Member

    re: Current Results - (Renegotiations???)

    Well if this the case then all you who voted yes can look forward to higher healthcare when you retire. If you think this is good then wait till the next contract when they ask you to pay more, and by then some of you will be retired like me and many others who depend on our current membership to do the right thing for themselves and their futures.. It is a shame voter turnout is so low, the minority decides for the majority.

    Higher deductibles, more for prescriptions, higher co pays, etc.. sad day for the F/ter who has to go now for 4 yrs......after busting his tail many yrs for some snot nosed p/t sup right out of HS. Be careful for what you wish for..It will come around someday and bite you, and bite you hard. We will just have to wait and see how much more profit UPS makes this yr all the while pounding the drivers and others about numbers.The Board in Atlanta is already erecting the big Party Tent to Celebrate their Victory..High fives and bonuses for all...If you are happy with your benefits now, it must be because you don't realize how much better they were back in the early 80's. 20 yrs from now, sad to say others will be wishing for the ones you have today, and most will more than likely be P/Ters doing F/T work. Ups always plans yrs in advance how to save a penny here and a penny there..This is a part of their plan, hang around long enough and you will see..Years ago I was proud to be a Teamster, now it is so watered down it is pathetic the way UPS jerks everyone no matter how long you have been there, no respect for Senior Drivers, Red circling porter and clerk Jobs to those in their later years who would like to move inside. All gone, now this contract waters it down even further..I Give Up, I am throwing in my towel, Hope has gone by the wayside:hang:
  15. Hoffa SUX

    Hoffa SUX Active Member

    re: Current Results - (Renegotiations???)

    That is affirmative. Its spelled out on Article XII of the IBT Constitution.
    Article XII, Section 2 of the IBT Constitution spells out the procedure. UPS Contract To be Re-Negotiated | Teamsters for a Democratic Union
  16. opie

    opie Member

    re: Current Results - (Renegotiations???)

    The people on the Vote No on UPS Contract facebook page are celebrating victory. As they believe the national is going back.
  17. Hoffa SUX

    Hoffa SUX Active Member

    re: Current Results - (Renegotiations???)

    Opie,

    We're celebrating that we are not getting merged into the Central States Health Fund (Teamcare). If the company wants to take our healthcare away, we want the right to build our own healthcare fund either in our rider or on the supplement.

    The big southwestern locals not only defeated our rider overwhelmingly, but we were big enough to override all the smaller locals in the West and carry the entire Western Conference to a NO victory.
  18. Nitelite

    Nitelite New Member

  19. Bagels

    Bagels Family Leave Fridays!!!

  20. Bagels

    Bagels Family Leave Fridays!!!

    re: Current Results - (Renegotiations???)

    Or maybe UPS & Teamsters re-group, survey why employees turned it down, determine that PTers were most upset with the changes, offer them $1,000 signing bonus to offset increased costs, send out a second round of ballots, only one-quarter of the original people who voted do so again & it easily passes.
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