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<blockquote data-quote="Uncle Rico" data-source="post: 121352" data-attributes="member: 4974"><p>As an outsider, By the time I retire, who knows where Social Security will be. Think I'm going to believe it will even be around? No way, I am on the tail end of baby boomers and they will suck it dry. That is quite simply why I invest in 401k, mutual funds, put 25 a month into 3 kids funds for college. I'm not going to be able to afford a state university and there will be no grants left for them when they get there. </p><p> </p><p>You all better start thinking this unfortunate and sad, but possible truth. Either UPS will stop paying those pensions at a certain point, finish paying the grandfathered ones still hanging around and you are screwed and they can join the ranks of other gigantic corporations that basically say "hey thanks for working here 30 years but now you are on your own and a big friend you." Of course with a cheesy smile on their face.</p><p> </p><p>Or, the fraternal brotherhood of teamsters will ultimately implode through the typical scandels of mismanaging money, pissing it away on the teamsters corporate greed and gluttony (which always made me laugh, teamster big wigs are as far from reality as the UPS big wigs but the brotherhood actually thinks they give a hoot about them in the rank and file<img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/group1/confused1.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":confused:" title="Confused :confused:" data-shortname=":confused:" />1 ) or UPS will take its chances one day and say "hey IBT, here is a big friend you to you also and your union is busted. They would rathr take the hit on training 300,000 new employees and suffer some losses than to continually put up with the teamster bs.</p><p> </p><p>If it aint broke, don't fix it...the current union is broken beyond repair in my opinion. APWA sounds to me like the magnifying glass will be on them for a long time even if voted in. Do you really think they would want to fail if they ousted the IBT? Think about it, they have egos also. Only speculation, but they would want to do things so right to, if nothing else, avoid the BS that would hit the fan at the very smallest sign of incompetance. </p><p> </p><p>Good debate, hope you use common sense and information when making a decision about this and not propaganda, scare tactics, threats, and outright lies.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Uncle Rico, post: 121352, member: 4974"] As an outsider, By the time I retire, who knows where Social Security will be. Think I'm going to believe it will even be around? No way, I am on the tail end of baby boomers and they will suck it dry. That is quite simply why I invest in 401k, mutual funds, put 25 a month into 3 kids funds for college. I'm not going to be able to afford a state university and there will be no grants left for them when they get there. You all better start thinking this unfortunate and sad, but possible truth. Either UPS will stop paying those pensions at a certain point, finish paying the grandfathered ones still hanging around and you are screwed and they can join the ranks of other gigantic corporations that basically say "hey thanks for working here 30 years but now you are on your own and a big friend you." Of course with a cheesy smile on their face. Or, the fraternal brotherhood of teamsters will ultimately implode through the typical scandels of mismanaging money, pissing it away on the teamsters corporate greed and gluttony (which always made me laugh, teamster big wigs are as far from reality as the UPS big wigs but the brotherhood actually thinks they give a hoot about them in the rank and file:confused1 ) or UPS will take its chances one day and say "hey IBT, here is a big friend you to you also and your union is busted. They would rathr take the hit on training 300,000 new employees and suffer some losses than to continually put up with the teamster bs. If it aint broke, don't fix it...the current union is broken beyond repair in my opinion. APWA sounds to me like the magnifying glass will be on them for a long time even if voted in. Do you really think they would want to fail if they ousted the IBT? Think about it, they have egos also. Only speculation, but they would want to do things so right to, if nothing else, avoid the BS that would hit the fan at the very smallest sign of incompetance. Good debate, hope you use common sense and information when making a decision about this and not propaganda, scare tactics, threats, and outright lies. [/QUOTE]
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