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UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)

Well-Known Member
Well, we have had all of the training and are set to go live with this on Monday.

I have changed my mind--initially I had taken a "wait and see" attitude--now I know that this is going to suck.

PIN numbers? Really?
 

bottomups

Bad Moon Risen'
My area of rural USA is about 45 miles long and 10 miles wide. Put on an average of 180 miles a day now. Can't wait to see how my miles jump when this new service gets up and running. See myself as a ping pong ball, driving back and forth with the new 2 hour delivery window.
I wonder how many tons of old delivery notices will have hit the landfills next week?
 

soberups

Pees in the brown Koolaid
I am trying to keep an open mind and reserve judgement on the new service until I see what additional resources (cars on the road) that Atlanta decides to provide to those of us on the front lines who must actually implement the new service.

As it stands now, the new program will fail. Those of us who do our jobs in the real world are going to be put in "triage" mode....having to choose which stops get delivered late, which pickups get done outside of the compliance window, and which ones dont get done at all. And this is on a "good" day when we are actually allowed to dispatch an "adequate" number of routes. The failures will compound exponentially on the days when some idiot in a cubicle forces us to eliminate 2 or 3 entire routes 30 minutes before start time and the volume gets forced into whatever adjacent car can contain it. On days like this, a route that was already hopeless to begin with will simply be buried 3 feet deeper in the same grave.

The bottom line is this; I can only legally work 14 hours a day or 60 hours in a week. My package car only holds 23 gallons of fuel, which means I am on fumes at about 180 miles. Something is going to have to give. Whatever winds up happening....it wont be my problem. I will work as directed, I will allow the impossible to fail, and I will sit back and laugh at the absurdity of it all while making $45 an hour to drive in circles.
 

upsset

Well-Known Member
I am trying to keep an open mind and reserve judgement on the new service until I see what additional resources (cars on the road) that Atlanta decides to provide to those of us on the front lines who must actually implement the new service.

As it stands now, the new program will fail. Those of us who do our jobs in the real world are going to be put in "triage" mode....having to choose which stops get delivered late, which pickups get done outside of the compliance window, and which ones dont get done at all. And this is on a "good" day when we are actually allowed to dispatch an "adequate" number of routes. The failures will compound exponentially on the days when some idiot in a cubicle forces us to eliminate 2 or 3 entire routes 30 minutes before start time and the volume gets forced into whatever adjacent car can contain it. On days like this, a route that was already hopeless to begin with will simply be buried 3 feet deeper in the same grave.

The bottom line is this; I can only legally work 14 hours a day or 60 hours in a week. My package car only holds 23 gallons of fuel, which means I am on fumes at about 180 miles. Something is going to have to give. Whatever winds up happening....it wont be my problem. I will work as directed, I will allow the impossible to fail, and I will sit back and laugh at the absurdity of it all while making $45 an hour to drive in circles.[/QUOT


AMEN Brother!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

toonertoo

Most Awesome Dog
Staff member
I also am keeping an open mind. Some questions I have, and no one know the answer to yet.
1. The training in the diad, all we got, says "the delivery times will be when we are historically in that area" ```` Now is that when PAS says we should be there or when we actually are?
2. Every time someone orders from the internet, by people who use UPS as a shipping option, are people asked to pay the money for the time they want?
3. I actually have a 2 hour window to do my pick ups, and they have closing times, and are exact. I have no DR time, actually on Friday I had 3 drs off at 5pm, and those were NDA. (of course I will also be 1.5 late) What do we do if those wanting delivery at that time, and doing so will nullify pick ups, and they could be missed? What takes precedent?
4. OMG what will this do to sporh?
 

klein

Für Meno :)
I got my giftcard the I won on the net delivered by UPS yesterday.
It was sent as "UPS SAVER" - the driver didn't show up until after 3pm.

Add "MY Choice" to his route, you have a dilemma !
 

soberups

Pees in the brown Koolaid
Normally by this time in a thread we would have Pretzel Man or Dragon chiming in to offer a management perspective on the new service and to explain some details that we might be unaware of.

Their silence is deafening.
 

Re-Raise

Well-Known Member
I also am keeping an open mind. Some questions I have, and no one know the answer to yet.
1. The training in the diad, all we got, says "the delivery times will be when we are historically in that area" ````

Is that historically when my route is on, or historically when it is cut? There are 2 towns that get delivered in the afternoon when my route is cut and the morning when it is on. Should be interesting.
 

Jones

fILE A GRIEVE!
Staff member
I also am keeping an open mind. Some questions I have, and no one know the answer to yet.
1. The training in the diad, all we got, says "the delivery times will be when we are historically in that area" ```` Now is that when PAS says we should be there or when we actually are?
2. Every time someone orders from the internet, by people who use UPS as a shipping option, are people asked to pay the money for the time they want?
3. I actually have a 2 hour window to do my pick ups, and they have closing times, and are exact. I have no DR time, actually on Friday I had 3 drs off at 5pm, and those were NDA. (of course I will also be 1.5 late) What do we do if those wanting delivery at that time, and doing so will nullify pick ups, and they could be missed? What takes precedent?
4. OMG what will this do to sporh?
I didn't even read any of the diad training, I just fast forwarded right to the questions and answered them as best as I could. I got most of them right, multiple guess tests aren't that hard. If I have any questions when stuff starts popping up in my diad I'll just call the office and ask what they want me to do. This whole thing sounds like a bad joke but whatever, I'm paid by the hour.
 

upsgrunt

Well-Known Member
Why does the signature screen in the diad have a "cancel" option now.
I'm with Upstate: Do we really need pin numbers?
 

Jack4343

FT DR Specialist
Interesting to see how they handle "My Choice" deliveries on add-cuts. The route I've been running has an add-cut on it that off-area from the normal route. Wonder how they'll work that into the mix. Should be a blast at peak! Maybe they'll extend our curfew or maybe add rest areas in our center so we can sleep for a few hours and begin redelivering.
 

Brownsfan

Well-Known Member
In the end this UPS saying that its my choice if i want to work at UPS. I can see a lot of old timers getting tired of there routes getting cut and working 12 hours a day saying i think its my time and my choice to move on. We have had 5 guys retire from our building in the last 4 years. We only have 32 drivers, now with edd and surepost we have 4 drivers on layoff and 0 new hires!. Whatever UPS is doing they are doing it well.

UPs delivery business used to be like an old cotton picking farm. 80 people in the field with backs picking the field by hand. With edd, keyless entry, and virtual time studies, they have turned us drivers into a cotton picker and now its time to eliminate the people in the field and there bags.
 

gman042

Been around the block a few times
Rural rtes are going to be the ones that are most affected by this new nightmare.

I cover 300 miles on a route that I run. What happens when there are 2 scheduled deliveries at the same time on opposite ends of the route. SCHEDULE THIS!!!!!!
 
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toonertoo

Most Awesome Dog
Staff member
Why does the signature screen in the diad have a "cancel" option now.
I'm with Upstate: Do we really need pin numbers?
I just had to know, it froze my board for about 1/2 hr total. They brought me a new one, and it never froze again..................:laughing:
 
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