UPS Part Time Management Union in California

Discussion in 'UPS Union Issues' started by Miranda Lucas, Jan 7, 2016.

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Should all Part-Time Management that work for UPS be unionized?

  1. Yes

    25.0%
  2. No

    75.0%
  1. Miranda Lucas

    Miranda Lucas New Member

    I work for CACH in Illinois and I am aware that the Part Time Management people in our hub in California are Unionized. CACH has so many issues with the Union for the employees, it is almost like we (management and union employees) work in this building as enemies. I wanted to hear some feed back on the union that the management team has out in California; pros, cons, what issues have been solved by this, what are new issues now because of it's existence, etc.
     
  2. rod

    rod retired and happy

    How can you be both?---it don't seem possible
     
  3. upschuck

    upschuck Avatar bet gone wrong

    Caitlyn.
     
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  4. Monkey Butt

    Monkey Butt You can call me Chappy Staff Member

    Management by definition has never been organized.
    The Teamsters allows for "Lead Employees" in certain areas ... maybe that is what you are referring to.
     
  5. jaker

    jaker trolling

    Someone lied to you, because I am in California and all management is not union
     
  6. Monkey Butt

    Monkey Butt You can call me Chappy Staff Member

    That implies that some are in a Union!
    Now that's funny.
    LOL
     
  7. PiedmontSteward

    PiedmontSteward RTW-4-Less

    Take away a PT supervisor's ability to perform personnel form writeups and they're essentially a foreman.

    They don't have hire/fire authority or any real decision making responsibilities, so they aren't management.
     
  8. Bubblehead

    Bubblehead My Senior Picture

    You just described an on-road "supervisor" and a part-time hub "supervisor" in my building.

    I have only seen an on-road supe fire a driver once (and it was crap), and the next day the company claimed he wasn't really discharged because the on-road didn't have the authority to make that decision.

    Part-time supes here don't hire or fire either.

    You may have just made the argument for this work group to be organized in my area.
     
  9. PiedmontSteward

    PiedmontSteward RTW-4-Less

    Same here. In my experience, "FT Supervisors" (that's what they're called in the hub; they're lateral to on-road/on-car sups in feeders/package) only really have the authority to "fire" someone if it's something pretty flagrant, but a management-level person must be involved ASAP. They have the authority/access to send off warning letters/suspension letters/discharge notices through the labor console (PT supervisors don't really have access to that stuff and warning letters have been tossed because PT sups sent them instead of the FT sup) but don't "usually" have the authority to take someone off the job.

    Every time we do internal organizing drives, PT sups on every sort ask if they can join (some serious, some joking).