UPS Pilots

HelloWorld · Aug 4, 2011

What is the process? Obviously airline certificates and that process of build up leading you to a commercial license. Time and money. But how can you actually aim for a UPS piloting job from the get go? I'd imagine HUB seniority doesn't matter and these are strictly "off the street" hires. Correct or wrong? Any insight into how you go from being the best loader in your HUB to being a UPS Captain. The hub is getting old...

brett636 · Aug 4, 2011

I am not aware of all the requirements, but I do know that unless you are a current airline pilot or former military jet pilot your chances are slim to none at getting the job. Just having the right certifications aren't enough, you would have to bring some significant experience to the table to be considered, and yes they are all "off the street" hires.

brown_trousers · Aug 4, 2011

just sign your name on the "part-time to pilot" bid sheet, its posted right next to the full-time driver bid sheet

Returntosender · Aug 4, 2011

The airline and small package, are not connected. There is a guy in my hub who was airline mechanic prior 9/11, and wanted to transfer from hub to UPS airline mechanic. HR told the guy, can't. He has to apply on the airline side of the business.

UPSGUY72 · Aug 4, 2011

HelloWorld said:
What is the process? Obviously airline certificates and that process of build up leading you to a commercial license. Time and money. But how can you actually aim for a UPS piloting job from the get go? I'd imagine HUB seniority doesn't matter and these are strictly "off the street" hires. Correct or wrong? Any insight into how you go from being the best loader in your HUB to being a UPS Captain. The hub is getting old...

It's going to take you about $200,000 to go to a flight school like Embry Riddle for 4 years. Than your are going to have to accumulate 1500 + hours of commercial flight time before the insurance company will even let them think about hiring you.

brownrod · Aug 4, 2011

Go to college then join the air force. Might be a better start than slangin cardboard in a hub.

JonFrum · Aug 5, 2011

When you were a little kid, and lived in an apartment on an upper floor, and they asked you what you wanted for your birthday, did you say, "a pony?"
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Here's the website of the IPA, the union of UPS pilots . . .
http://www.ipapilot.org/

old levi's · Aug 5, 2011

brett636 said:
I am not aware of all the requirements, but I do know that unless you are a current airline pilot or former military jet pilot your chances are slim to none at getting the job. Just having the right certifications aren't enough, you would have to bring some significant experience to the table to be considered, and yes they are all "off the street" hires.

More like "out of the cloud" hires, wouldn't you say? :cloudy:

brownmonster · Aug 5, 2011

HelloWorld said:
What is the process? Obviously airline certificates and that process of build up leading you to a commercial license. Time and money. But how can you actually aim for a UPS piloting job from the get go? I'd imagine HUB seniority doesn't matter and these are strictly "off the street" hires. Correct or wrong? Any insight into how you go from being the best loader in your HUB to being a UPS Captain. The hub is getting old...

Give up on driving already Superloader?

p228 · Aug 5, 2011

There was a news article a few months ago that said UPS and Fedex required significantly more experience in terms of flight hours than passenger airlines. UPS/Fedex required about 5000hrs experience and some passenger airlines required around 1000hrs.

brown_trousers · Aug 5, 2011

I once spoke with a UPS small airplane pilot, he flew one of the feeder planes, and I was surprised to hear how low his salary was. He was making 24k a year. Seems like an extremely low salary given the expense of flight school

brett636 · Aug 5, 2011

brown_trousers said:
I once spoke with a UPS small airplane pilot, he flew one of the feeder planes, and I was surprised to hear how low his salary was. He was making 24k a year. Seems like an extremely low salary given the expense of flight school

Yes, oddly enough that is the first year average pay, but it skyrockets from there. Eventually that pilot will be taking in $200k+ per year and only work 40 hours a month.

UpstateNYUPSer(Ret) · Aug 5, 2011

p228 said:
There was a news article a few months ago that said UPS and Fedex required significantly more experience in terms of flight hours than passenger airlines. UPS/Fedex required about 5000hrs experience and some passenger airlines required around 1000hrs.

I guess UPS was right---packages before people.

The Blackadder · Aug 5, 2011

When I was hired they asked me if I wanted to fly a 767 or drive a P100. Like a fool I checked off the P100 box what a fool I was.

cachsux · Aug 6, 2011

capt. kirk said:
When I was hired they asked me if I wanted to fly a 767 or drive a P100. Like a fool I checked off the P100 box what a fool I was.

Look at the bright side. If the motor quits in your P100 you won`t auger in from 40,000 feet up.

SpoolEmUp · Aug 6, 2011

Yeah, I want to know what the deal is, too.

Oh, sorry, 1st time poster. :happy-very:

While I was in college I finished my ratings, I was a private pilot @16.

After graduating college, I couldn't find a job in my field so I got a casual driver gig at UPS. Then I started thinking, how does a guy (who already has the ratings, and 1000+ hours) get a flying job at UPS?

I take it going up to my manager and asking probably won't do it. I got a degree and the ratings, where do I go from here? :sick:

SpoolEmUp · Aug 6, 2011

I'm a casual right now (until December),and I got all my ratings to fly commercially (and a degree). How do I try and fanagle my way into one of their airplanes? I've got all the proper training, licenses and ratings. Would working 'within' UPS help? Or is it a pipe dream?

ridge128 · Aug 6, 2011

SpoolEmUp said:
I'm a casual right now (until December),and I got all my ratings to fly commercially (and a degree). How do I try and fanagle my way into one of their airplanes? I've got all the proper training, licenses and ratings. Would working 'within' UPS help? Or is it a pipe dream?

There is over 100 IPA pilots on furlough and UPS is using MGT pilots to fill the void...

UpstateNYUPSer(Ret) · Aug 7, 2011

SpoolEmUp said:
I'm a casual right now (until December),and I got all my ratings to fly commercially (and a degree). How do I try and fanagle my way into one of their airplanes? I've got all the proper training, licenses and ratings. Would working 'within' UPS help? Or is it a pipe dream?

I would have to think that flying one of the big cargo planes is more than likely a pipe dream.

There may be a way to get in the cockpit and still handle UPS packages. How does your air get to your local airport? Is it flown in on a UPS plane or by a contracted airline? Ours comes in via a puddle jumper. If yours does as well this may be your ticket; beyond that, I don't see how you would be able to combine your UPS career and pilot license.

hurricanegunner · Aug 8, 2011

brown_trousers said:
just sign your name on the "part-time to pilot" bid sheet, its posted right next to the full-time driver bid sheet

Perhaps he could be a "cover pilot?"

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