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<blockquote data-quote="MrFedEx" data-source="post: 1192714" data-attributes="member: 12508"><p>No jumping to conclusions. I'm just pointing out that safety often takes a back seat to saving money. FedEx also does "hurry-up" approaches. This where the captain turns around and asks you (in the jumpseat) if you get airsick easily, and then proceeds to dive as fast as they can because they need to make up time. The rest of the approach is "normal", and the only reason they can do it is because there is little traffic during the hours FedEx and UPS fly.</p><p></p><p>My comment uses the term "familiar ring" to it because FedEx operates the world's largest fleet of the one of the world's most dangerous aircraft, the MD11. Only the TU-154 gets lower marks for safety with a lot of pilots. The "Deathstar" (MD11) has killed a lot of pilots, but it's still in the air.</p><p></p><p>UPS is notoriously cheap when they spec aircraft. Their Boeing 767s are the most Spartan cargo versions ever built. I don't know how the A300-600 was equipped. Nobody knows what happened yet, but we do know that both UPS and FedEx will do almost anything to save time (and money), and flying a "hurry-up" approach into an airport with known terrain issues is both dangerous and foolhardy. It increasingly looks like they struck trees and/or terrain and that engines and everything else were fully functional.</p><p></p><p>For pilots, the #1 concern is finding out what happened so it never happens again. The first people who want the full story are UPS A300-600 "Bus" drivers.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="MrFedEx, post: 1192714, member: 12508"] No jumping to conclusions. I'm just pointing out that safety often takes a back seat to saving money. FedEx also does "hurry-up" approaches. This where the captain turns around and asks you (in the jumpseat) if you get airsick easily, and then proceeds to dive as fast as they can because they need to make up time. The rest of the approach is "normal", and the only reason they can do it is because there is little traffic during the hours FedEx and UPS fly. My comment uses the term "familiar ring" to it because FedEx operates the world's largest fleet of the one of the world's most dangerous aircraft, the MD11. Only the TU-154 gets lower marks for safety with a lot of pilots. The "Deathstar" (MD11) has killed a lot of pilots, but it's still in the air. UPS is notoriously cheap when they spec aircraft. Their Boeing 767s are the most Spartan cargo versions ever built. I don't know how the A300-600 was equipped. Nobody knows what happened yet, but we do know that both UPS and FedEx will do almost anything to save time (and money), and flying a "hurry-up" approach into an airport with known terrain issues is both dangerous and foolhardy. It increasingly looks like they struck trees and/or terrain and that engines and everything else were fully functional. For pilots, the #1 concern is finding out what happened so it never happens again. The first people who want the full story are UPS A300-600 "Bus" drivers. [/QUOTE]
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