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<blockquote data-quote="athena" data-source="post: 226965" data-attributes="member: 9953"><p>So there just needs to be a system put in place (or use a current system-i.e. the current marriage licensing system) to record the civil unions. A legal marriage in some states does not even require this (common law marriage-people who have lived together in a relationship for a specified amount of time are considered married). Additionally, the marriage/divorce records are just legal papers stating that each person is responsible for the other. We provide this same type of legal relationship between parents and adult children. I don't really see how this can be such a great obstacle that can't be overcome easily.</p><p> </p><p></p><p> As has been state before, the relationship between 2 consenting adults is not the same as a relationship between an adult and an animal or a child for that matter. Neither animal nor child can understand the true commitment of being in a relationship that requires each being to be responsible for the other being. </p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p>What does Ghandi being an Indian have anything to do with anything? Oh he wasn't Christian so he can't be right? Likewise, what does having children and being in a marriage have anything to do with being a hero? So the men and women who fought for your equality but never married or had children are not heroes? There have been plenty of "heroes" in our country's history that had children and were married and didn't consider anyone but white males that owned land to be there equal. Everyone else was less in their eyes and in the eyes of the law. (Consider the Declaration of Independence being written and signed in America when slavery was being practiced). The arguments you make sound awfully similar to those arugments used to refuse rights to blacks and women for so long.</p><p> </p><p>I am getting tired of people using Christianity as a foundation for treating people differently. I know I could never agree with all the choices and opinions you have made but that does not give me the right to deny you "certain unalienable rights".</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="athena, post: 226965, member: 9953"] So there just needs to be a system put in place (or use a current system-i.e. the current marriage licensing system) to record the civil unions. A legal marriage in some states does not even require this (common law marriage-people who have lived together in a relationship for a specified amount of time are considered married). Additionally, the marriage/divorce records are just legal papers stating that each person is responsible for the other. We provide this same type of legal relationship between parents and adult children. I don't really see how this can be such a great obstacle that can't be overcome easily. As has been state before, the relationship between 2 consenting adults is not the same as a relationship between an adult and an animal or a child for that matter. Neither animal nor child can understand the true commitment of being in a relationship that requires each being to be responsible for the other being. What does Ghandi being an Indian have anything to do with anything? Oh he wasn't Christian so he can't be right? Likewise, what does having children and being in a marriage have anything to do with being a hero? So the men and women who fought for your equality but never married or had children are not heroes? There have been plenty of "heroes" in our country's history that had children and were married and didn't consider anyone but white males that owned land to be there equal. Everyone else was less in their eyes and in the eyes of the law. (Consider the Declaration of Independence being written and signed in America when slavery was being practiced). The arguments you make sound awfully similar to those arugments used to refuse rights to blacks and women for so long. I am getting tired of people using Christianity as a foundation for treating people differently. I know I could never agree with all the choices and opinions you have made but that does not give me the right to deny you "certain unalienable rights". [/QUOTE]
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