UPS strike.

[Catatonic]

It might only cost $3 to make an i-phone but if people will pay $500 for it that is what they will charge.

And if the market is only paying $500 and it cost you $600 to manufacture? You find another product to sell or you go out of business.

Keep in mind that a company does not exist so people can have jobs ... a company exists to provide a ROI for it's owners/investors.

 

[Catatonic]

Are you jealous that we might gain in the next contract? Don't you think the people actually moving the packages that provide you with a job, should be compensated fairly while the company continues to make a profit?

Or are you struggling without the increased dividend checks?

If you want to have an intelligent conversation and trade mature, adult thoughts, I will await your next post.

 

[Re-Raise]

I believe you are right about UPS feeling betrayed in 97. They really tried to go around the union by sending mailings straight to the workers about the contract offer. It didn't work.

There is no way the Teamsters were going to allow UPS to pull out of the Teamster pension fund.

I also believe the company was shocked that the public supported the workers like they did. That is my memory from 97. Hopefully it will never get to that point again.

There is plenty of time to negotiate a contract that compensates the employees well and still allows for a reasonable profit. I hope excessive greed from either side doesn't get in the way.

 

[Re-Raise]

I will also concede that the part-time to full-time job issue resonated with people in 97. I realize ,in this economy, a strike over $34 an hour compared to $35 an hour might not garner the same public support in 2013.


Hopefully the company also realizes the value of quality employees, both part-time and full-time.

 

[uber]

I've heard that the 20,000 full time combo jobs that were agreed upon still hasnt even been filled.

 

[Leftinbuilding]

Deleted.

 

[bellesmom]

I've heard that the 20,000 full time combo jobs that were agreed upon still hasnt even been filled.

You heard correctly.

 

[Indecisi0n]

Verizon workers thought they had the upper hand too. See where it got them....

Verizon has the worse union known to man.

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

Verizon workers thought they had the upper hand too. See where it got them....

Verizon has the worse union known to man.

Verizon unionized hourlies are represented by several unions (CWA and IBEW) depending upon their location. They were bargaining from a disadvantaged position due to the steady decline in the landline business. I spoke to one of the Verizon techs yesterday and he told me that they basically wasted two weeks when they could have been working all along without a contract. He did say that the company, which initially wanted the union to accept 100 or so concessions, has scaled most of these back. I think the decision to picket in front of the wireless stores may come back to bite them on the butt.

I also noticed an inflatable rat from one of the videos shot in the NYC area--is that the same one that the Teamsters used during one of theiir informational pickets?

 

[Indecisi0n]

Verizon unionized hourlies are represented by several unions (CWA and IBEW) depending upon their location. They were bargaining from a disadvantaged position due to the steady decline in the landline business. I spoke to one of the Verizon techs yesterday and he told me that they basically wasted two weeks when they could have been working all along without a contract. He did say that the company, which initially wanted the union to accept 100 or so concessions, has scaled most of these back. I think the decision to picket in front of the wireless stores may come back to bite them on the butt.

I also noticed an inflatable rat from one of the videos shot in the NYC area--is that the same one that the Teamsters used during one of theiir informational pickets?

Company has been screwing with their members the entire contact. My buddy who works for Verizon got forced (sent) 6.5 hrs away from his house (like 400+ miles) and the union did nothing even though it was stated in their contract they couldn't do that. Well it wasn't just him, it was like 50 guys. Then Verizon moved guys from out of state into the guys spot who they moved away from home. Company is crazy.

 

[MenInBrown]

Since no one else has posted it, here's a little history lesson for you youngsters:

That truck at the end of the video is still on road at my center...haha

 

[Backlasher]

Funny, A big part of the 97 strike was over Part time jobs. It still is a big issue.

I was getting my diad yesturday and overheard a Manager-driver conversation on how he has all this time between stops. Driver states he dealing with bad loa quality and is sorting for pieces.
Manager suggests he come in early, off the clock and sort out his truck to get better ####'s. Driver says NO WAY.I'm proad of that guy.

The ##'s are pressuring guys to come in early work off the clock, Sort and work during breaks and lunches, and even clocking out at air dock before they pull off air and so working off clock while pulling off air, pulling off hazmats, unloading smalls, and unloading exception 3's.

This is bullcrap. All this time off the clock. All this part time seasonal work. I think we need to strengthing the union and I think we need change.

Cali won the lunch issue without the union. Why are Drivers on the east cost not fighting this as well????

The #'s pn time allowance alone can b used against them cause it's showing that they want us doing all this off the clock to meet the ####'s. There own allowance records can be used against them.

Get your heads out of that good top pay rate and don't settle till these other issues are CORRECTED!!!!!!!!!

What do I know. I'm just a part timer doing full time when contract allowes it. We need drivers to stand up against this. We are not lazy slackers and we work our butt off.

This #####'s push completly pushes against and contradicts the methodes of SAFETY!!!

SAFETY, QUAILITY, and GOOD SURVICE should Be priority and that call for better time allowance, better load quality, and better dispatch.

 

[Re-Raise]

Keep in mind that a company does not exist so people can have jobs ... a company exists to provide a ROI for it's owners/investors.

And there we have it.

Thank God for the Teamsters and collective bargaining.

Eventually corporate greed will leave us with a nation of unemployed or underemployed who can't afford to pay for their products and services.

But it should make the shareholders happy, for a while.

 

[menotyou]

Weren't companies given tax breaks to hire? If so, then they do exist to create jobs, not just for the almighty shareholders.

 

[Packmule]

1997. Union struck UPS to maintain their legal right to continue bankrupting our retirement via multi-employer pension fund rules. UPS was actually the ones trying to move us into a single-employer fun and looking out for our best interest. That does not mean, however, you can trust the company today. Just that you can't trust the Teamsters either. Check out the APWA. If we could ever get these people in power they would be exactly what we need at UPS. Til then, put your faith in God, family, and yourself 'cause there ain't nobody else got your back.

 

[UnconTROLLed]

And there we have it.

Thank God for the Teamsters and collective bargaining.

Eventually corporate greed will leave us with a nation of unemployed or underemployed who can't afford to pay for their products and services.

But it should make the shareholders happy, for a while.

Marxist, anti-corporate socialist! How dare you.

 

[Catatonic]

Weren't companies given tax breaks to hire? If so, then they do exist to create jobs, not just for the almighty shareholders.

The means to make money (profits) is irrelevant.

If hiring an employee that the company can make a expected ROI, then a company will do so.

Follow the money.


BTW - That is a good way to generate jobs and expand the economy.

 

[CharleyHustle]

UPS was caught by surprise and they were not prepared. UPS rarely makes the same mistake twice.

Do you think corporate was given bad information from center level management that the hourly were not going to strike? Since '97 any decision making has been taken away from lower level managers and all the new technology also gives insight into how well each center team is doing. It seems the divide is greater between center level sups and corporate than between hourly and management.

As far as '97, the 22.3 jobs turned out to be mostly a joke, and UPS teamsters are now basicly out of the Central States plan. I'll let you decide who won those arguments. If FedEx moves to consolidate air and ground there goes the only real advantage we have over the competition.

 

[Raw]

i heard the earth might be round, can anyone verify that?

I heard the earth may not be around!

 

[Raw]

I don't cross picket lines. It tells me a lot about you that you do.

In 1997 the Coca-Cola driver tried to cross the picket line.....the result made the evening news!