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<blockquote data-quote="wkmac" data-source="post: 132689" data-attributes="member: 2189"><p>Checkout page 2, paragraph 6 which states that UPS/Teamsters want to impose penalities on employers who use independent and 3rd party contractors in their business operations. Am I reading this right? Is he saying UPS in league with the IBT wants to sanction other employers who in the course of their business opt to use IC's or 3rd party avenues to meet customer needs and demands? You mean UPS, the IC King? Well! Well! Well! Talk about the pot calling the kettle black!</p><p></p><p>This document is a good read IMO and the worth the time for any UPS/IBT member especially one covered by Central States. In reading this company President's testimony I came away thinking 2 things. One, that UPS has taken a position in this mess of using it's 800 lb. gorilla status of drafting rules that in effect would force other companies to either pay up to the point of allowing UPS a soft landing or (2) the better prospect that in their attempt to withdraw and protect their business, the sanctions themselves would kill the business itself and thus clear the playing field of competition and UPS moves in to scoff up the gravy! The last paragraph on page 1 and concluding on page 2 sure seem to suggest this very thing!</p><p></p><p>Either way, it sure looks like UPS and the IBT are in league together and both would benefit in either case.</p><p></p><p>And to JonFrum,</p><p></p><p>Hey man, girl, dude or whatever pertaining to gender, excellent links to the IAM pension situtation. Nice job. </p><p></p><p>It amazes me that so many IBT blinded loyalist can sit there and extoll the higher virtues of the IBT and it's heavenly mission to save us from the demon employers all the while knowing full good and well what others like the IAM are doing for it's members. Surely, if the IAM can in some formula get $10k per month for it's retirees, then it is possible for another union to set up a plan that pays out $7k per month to it's retirees. We however, the blessed of the IBT/CS heavenly alliance are lucky to get $3k per month if we survive the whole process to age 62.</p><p></p><p>We are the union....</p><p>The mighty, mighty union!</p><p></p><p>Yeah <img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/group1/censored2.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":censored2:" title="Censored2 :censored2:" data-shortname=":censored2:" /> right!!!!!!!!</p><p></p><p>I'm starting a new version.</p><p></p><p>We are the <img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/group1/censored2.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":censored2:" title="Censored2 :censored2:" data-shortname=":censored2:" />....</p><p>The hard, hard <img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/group1/censored2.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":censored2:" title="Censored2 :censored2:" data-shortname=":censored2:" />....</p><p></p><p>And we're to stupid to stand up, pull up our pants and not take it anymore!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="wkmac, post: 132689, member: 2189"] Checkout page 2, paragraph 6 which states that UPS/Teamsters want to impose penalities on employers who use independent and 3rd party contractors in their business operations. Am I reading this right? Is he saying UPS in league with the IBT wants to sanction other employers who in the course of their business opt to use IC's or 3rd party avenues to meet customer needs and demands? You mean UPS, the IC King? Well! Well! Well! Talk about the pot calling the kettle black! This document is a good read IMO and the worth the time for any UPS/IBT member especially one covered by Central States. In reading this company President's testimony I came away thinking 2 things. One, that UPS has taken a position in this mess of using it's 800 lb. gorilla status of drafting rules that in effect would force other companies to either pay up to the point of allowing UPS a soft landing or (2) the better prospect that in their attempt to withdraw and protect their business, the sanctions themselves would kill the business itself and thus clear the playing field of competition and UPS moves in to scoff up the gravy! The last paragraph on page 1 and concluding on page 2 sure seem to suggest this very thing! Either way, it sure looks like UPS and the IBT are in league together and both would benefit in either case. And to JonFrum, Hey man, girl, dude or whatever pertaining to gender, excellent links to the IAM pension situtation. Nice job. It amazes me that so many IBT blinded loyalist can sit there and extoll the higher virtues of the IBT and it's heavenly mission to save us from the demon employers all the while knowing full good and well what others like the IAM are doing for it's members. Surely, if the IAM can in some formula get $10k per month for it's retirees, then it is possible for another union to set up a plan that pays out $7k per month to it's retirees. We however, the blessed of the IBT/CS heavenly alliance are lucky to get $3k per month if we survive the whole process to age 62. We are the union.... The mighty, mighty union! Yeah :censored: right!!!!!!!! I'm starting a new version. We are the :censored:.... The hard, hard :censored:.... And we're to stupid to stand up, pull up our pants and not take it anymore! [/QUOTE]
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