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<blockquote data-quote="LagunaBrown" data-source="post: 1180708" data-attributes="member: 29765"><p>Reform Crew: "Your intellect on the MOU is moot. As I understand some of this, the trustees of the CS Plan have powers to change things in that HC Plan. They are also voted in and out. to Member's satisfaction? Members get to vote on what H/H/&Andy M bring forward as they are appointed to negotiate this on member's behalf. I personally wish to see the WC have their own HC Plan. As someone pointed it out to me way back earlier this year, funding such a plan is difficult. After a few months of research on my own, that statement seems to be correct"</p><p></p><p>So your a professional on contract negotiation...... LOL!!!! How many time must I say it? CS plan is the worst case scenario and having the Central Sates is bad because of the Central States Trustees. This is what I have been saying since day 1 that the MOU must get done and be controlled by West Trustees (have you even read the MOU or my arguments with TOS?). You voted no cause you didn't believe it would get done, had nothing on paper and listen to Debbie Downers like TOS way too much. Our leaders get it and told the members they understand a no vote because of the ambiguous language but wanted their trust with a yes vote. Here is what it comes down to, I believe in Andy M and that the MOU will get done and the West will get a plan they can control. That means WE the west negotiate our own plan from now on and the IBT can not levy votes from the central and east coast like they did for the NMA. The reality is your "No" vote did nothing to change the MOU or when it would be completed. You could have voted yes and we still would be here waiting as well. It makes perfect sense that they will come through for the actives and like I said before if we don't get the MOU there will be trouble for every local out here (if thrown in Central states plan, not because of some internet reformers). I can not tell you it will or won't happen but until they fail I got their backs. They deserve it and you would want people to trust in you if your job was on the line. Last time I checked we are a UNION and we all like our jobs don't we.</p><p></p><p>PS. That Dog you talked about has some bark or that MOU might not even been in the contract. Hopefully we get some SPD's soon and find out what direction we are truly going.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p style="text-align: left"><span style="color: #000000"></span></p> <p style="text-align: left"><span style="color: #000000"></span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="LagunaBrown, post: 1180708, member: 29765"] Reform Crew: "Your intellect on the MOU is moot. As I understand some of this, the trustees of the CS Plan have powers to change things in that HC Plan. They are also voted in and out. to Member's satisfaction? Members get to vote on what H/H/&Andy M bring forward as they are appointed to negotiate this on member's behalf. I personally wish to see the WC have their own HC Plan. As someone pointed it out to me way back earlier this year, funding such a plan is difficult. After a few months of research on my own, that statement seems to be correct" So your a professional on contract negotiation...... LOL!!!! How many time must I say it? CS plan is the worst case scenario and having the Central Sates is bad because of the Central States Trustees. This is what I have been saying since day 1 that the MOU must get done and be controlled by West Trustees (have you even read the MOU or my arguments with TOS?). You voted no cause you didn't believe it would get done, had nothing on paper and listen to Debbie Downers like TOS way too much. Our leaders get it and told the members they understand a no vote because of the ambiguous language but wanted their trust with a yes vote. Here is what it comes down to, I believe in Andy M and that the MOU will get done and the West will get a plan they can control. That means WE the west negotiate our own plan from now on and the IBT can not levy votes from the central and east coast like they did for the NMA. The reality is your "No" vote did nothing to change the MOU or when it would be completed. You could have voted yes and we still would be here waiting as well. It makes perfect sense that they will come through for the actives and like I said before if we don't get the MOU there will be trouble for every local out here (if thrown in Central states plan, not because of some internet reformers). I can not tell you it will or won't happen but until they fail I got their backs. They deserve it and you would want people to trust in you if your job was on the line. Last time I checked we are a UNION and we all like our jobs don't we. PS. That Dog you talked about has some bark or that MOU might not even been in the contract. Hopefully we get some SPD's soon and find out what direction we are truly going. [LEFT][COLOR=#000000] [/COLOR][/LEFT] [/QUOTE]
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