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<blockquote data-quote="The Other Side" data-source="post: 1180976" data-attributes="member: 17969"><p>When you speak of comprehension, what about yours? when do you address what I asked of you? I asked you to post the particular MOU that you are referring to as your "save all" to our healthcare. You didnt post it.</p><p></p><p>I blame you for nothing more than not voting. Its a pretty simple process. Apparently, not for you. As for your name, you qualified that yourself so you have nobody to blame for that but you.</p><p></p><p>As for your assertion that i want a plan to be run by the members, well, thats not true either, but dont let that stop you. I dont want to be a part of the central states or similiar plan administered by the teamsters for whatever reason.</p><p></p><p>I want to maintain my current plan administered by UPS and UPS only. The company made tons of money, and to provide the coverage to us members in the west shouldnt have been on the table, but thats what the IBT thought was in "our" best interests. </p><p></p><p>You make another assertion in your post that the "West" will have a board of trustees and that will somehow translate into being in our best interests...</p><p></p><p>Well, how do you come to that conclusion? Those trustees will be the same monkeys who got us into this mess in the first place. You expect us to believe that Andy, Ron, Randy and Co. will protect us as trustees when they couldnt protect us as negotiators?</p><p></p><p>Cause, believe me, the southwest will simply place themselves at the helm of the board along with UPS representatives. That being said, the UPS representatives will ALWAYS recommend that additional costs be passed to the members, and apparently, given the state of this contract proposal, the southwest leaders agree and are passing along the costs to the members.</p><p></p><p>So, looking forward, it can be safely assumed that any additional costs to maintain a plan will have to come from the EMPLOYEES and not the company.</p><p></p><p>The beloved MOU that you "THINK" you understand, doesnt contain a provision that guarantees coverage remain the same for the duration of the contract, so it still can be changed by the trustees at any time without OUR permission.</p><p></p><p>The company ISNT going to contribute any more money to the healthcare fund once this is finished. Thats plain and simple, so any rise is costs will have to be funded by the members and its PEOPLE like YOU that will convince others to screw themselves.</p><p></p><p>Just like you didnt understand the voting process enough to cast a ballot, you are wrong on the healthcare issue as well.</p><p></p><p>But lets come back to the begining. POST the MOU you feel speaks for itself and validates your claims. Ill still wait.</p><p></p><p>Peace</p><p></p><p>TOS</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="The Other Side, post: 1180976, member: 17969"] When you speak of comprehension, what about yours? when do you address what I asked of you? I asked you to post the particular MOU that you are referring to as your "save all" to our healthcare. You didnt post it. I blame you for nothing more than not voting. Its a pretty simple process. Apparently, not for you. As for your name, you qualified that yourself so you have nobody to blame for that but you. As for your assertion that i want a plan to be run by the members, well, thats not true either, but dont let that stop you. I dont want to be a part of the central states or similiar plan administered by the teamsters for whatever reason. I want to maintain my current plan administered by UPS and UPS only. The company made tons of money, and to provide the coverage to us members in the west shouldnt have been on the table, but thats what the IBT thought was in "our" best interests. You make another assertion in your post that the "West" will have a board of trustees and that will somehow translate into being in our best interests... Well, how do you come to that conclusion? Those trustees will be the same monkeys who got us into this mess in the first place. You expect us to believe that Andy, Ron, Randy and Co. will protect us as trustees when they couldnt protect us as negotiators? Cause, believe me, the southwest will simply place themselves at the helm of the board along with UPS representatives. That being said, the UPS representatives will ALWAYS recommend that additional costs be passed to the members, and apparently, given the state of this contract proposal, the southwest leaders agree and are passing along the costs to the members. So, looking forward, it can be safely assumed that any additional costs to maintain a plan will have to come from the EMPLOYEES and not the company. The beloved MOU that you "THINK" you understand, doesnt contain a provision that guarantees coverage remain the same for the duration of the contract, so it still can be changed by the trustees at any time without OUR permission. The company ISNT going to contribute any more money to the healthcare fund once this is finished. Thats plain and simple, so any rise is costs will have to be funded by the members and its PEOPLE like YOU that will convince others to screw themselves. Just like you didnt understand the voting process enough to cast a ballot, you are wrong on the healthcare issue as well. But lets come back to the begining. POST the MOU you feel speaks for itself and validates your claims. Ill still wait. Peace TOS [/QUOTE]
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