What the friend is a Hoofa?
UPS vs. Union proposals now on the table
- Thread starter Asskicker
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They'll be eligible as soon as UPS makes a contribution on their behalf, exactly as a full timer is.
barnyard
KTM rider
Until an agreement is ratified there is absolutely no way for you to know that.
I have not heard of one of these items that you've posted. Don't listen to the bs that get's started everytime it's contract time. If you want an answer I suggest you contact your local. I have been staying updated using my locals website. If you go to the teamster website you can see the Union proposal and Company proposal. Negotiations concluded yesterday afternoon. They are scheduled to talk again the week of April 15th and April 22nd.
Know what? Know when a participant is eligible for benefits? Contributions must start for eligibility to begin or any plan goes belly-up.
realbrown1
Annoy a liberal today. Hit them with facts.
Your eligible on the date your suppose to be eligible weather contributions started or not.
.Hotgaldriver
Member
Is the union health care plan not as good?
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
Well-Known Member
You're eligible on the date you're supposed to be eligible whether contributions have started or not.
Who's the
now?
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
Well-Known Member
I am on the Union healthcare plan----the coverage is excellent. The Union recently added co-pays ($10 doctors office visit/$100 ER visit) as members were treating the ER like it was their doctors office---it has worked as out healthcare costs have gone down dramatically. We have very low Rx co-pays ($5 and up) and excellent dental and vision benefits.
The Teamster healthcare plans are run by each Union local---the BA will shop for the best deal, keeping in mind the level of benefits for the members. I would be curious if the Union, if they do take over our healthcare, would use their bargaining power to have a single national healthcare provider rather than one for each local.
Dragon
Package Center Manager
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
Well-Known Member
My daughter starts a new job 4/8 and will be eligible for full free benefits for her and husband on 4/8. I would not advocate this for the union but would agree with the 30 day suggestion.
Limper
Out For Delivery
You are correct. I quote from "A People's History of the United States" by Howard Zinn: "Around 1776, certain important people in the English colonies made a discovery that would prove enormously useful...They found that by creating a nation, a symbol, a legal unity called the United States, they could take over land, profits and political power from favorites of the British Empire. ...they could hold back a number of potential rebellions and create a consensus of popular support for the rule of a new privileged leadership...They created the most effective system of national control devised in modern times." In other words what occurred in the colonies was not so much a "revolution" where the masses on the bottom became the owners of society. No, it was more a rebellion by the colonists lead by the colonial elite to replace a british ruling elite with an american ruling elite.
Also look up Charles Beard's "An Economic Interpretation of the Constitution of the Unitesd States". He believed that the wealthy must in their own interest either control the government directly or at least control the laws by which govt operates. His book delves into the personal wealth and power of the men who actually wrote our constitution. Indeed, we live in a plutocracy.
PT Stewie
"Big Fella"
Also look up Charles Beard's "An Economic Interpretation of the Constitution of the United States". He believed that the wealthy must in their own interest either control the government directly or at least control the laws by which govt operates. His book delves into the personal wealth and power of the men who actually wrote our constitution. Indeed, we live in a plutocracy.
I see much has not changed in 200+ years .Colonial land owners ,Carnegie,Mellon,Ford,Vanderbilt,Getty,Rockefeller,Fred S,UPS upper management LOL
I see much has not changed in 200+ years .Colonial land owners ,Carnegie,Mellon,Ford,Vanderbilt,Getty,Rockefeller,Fred S,UPS upper management LOL
saintrick
Well-Known Member
As any one read the freight update? We still pay weekly in a union plan?
http://www.teamster.org/sites/teamster.org/files/ups_freight_update_march_28_new.pdf
http://www.teamster.org/sites/teamster.org/files/ups_freight_update_march_28_new.pdf
gotbrown
Well-Known Member
well thats interesting... did not read that in our release .....
Hotgaldriver
Member
Thank you for the quick reply. I wonder how our union will be able to handle so many people coming on to their insurance at the same time though?! This whole thing is stressful!
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
Well-Known Member
Obamacare forced the union to add dependents up to age 26, including my son, back on to the insurance. They mailed us a certification form, which we filled out and sent back, and they sent us a confirmation of his re-enrollment (he had been covered up to age 23 as he was a FT college student) set to terminate 6/1 (he turns 26 on 5/3).
There is no need for you to be stressed about this. Your coverage should be the same, if not better, than those you have now---there may be co-pays and deductibles that you don't have now but they are manageable. The "30/60/90" should go away once the union formally takes over our healthcare.
There would need to be a transition period for both the conversion and for the influx of all of the new insureds---I would think Jan 1st 2014 would be sufficient.
TreeIsLegend
Member
Could anyone be kind enough to link the thread where actual facts are being discussed and displayed? Would appreciate the help. Threads like these throw off my search.
