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<blockquote data-quote="Catatonic" data-source="post: 1010726" data-attributes="member: 7966"><p>1) When I was hired at UPS, like any other company, I realized I was hired to do what was best for the company which would be determined by a chain of command.</p><p>I have never been directed to do anything immoral or illegal, so that has not been a problem so far nor do I expect it to be a problem in the next 8 months or so before I retire.</p><p>I have been asked to do things that were neither immoral or illegal but I have been asked to do things I was not comfortable with at which point I pushed back and every single time it has been dropped.</p><p></p><p>2) This is such a subjective phrase that there is no way to really answer it. I have been treated poorly a few times and I got over it but I remembered the "person"s ... I remembered very well. I was wary and non-supportive of those individuals but always supportive of UPS.</p><p></p><p>3) I think everybody makes up, embellishes or has selective memory about how well "they" did things long, long ago in a galaxy far away.</p><p>As an IE Manager, I had contacts all over the US and every time a new District Manager came in talking about how he did it back in "his galaxy". I would make a few calls and invariably the DM was in the "makes up, embellishes or has selective memory" mode.</p><p></p><p>4) I was never interested in getting promoted beyond the manager level and turned the next level down 3 times ... eventually, you drop off the list.</p><p>IMO jobs above the manager level are filled with too much stress, dealing with unreasonable expectations and just plain crappy jobs where you are forced into having to make decisions with less and less information. Manager level jobs involve making decisions were you feel fairly comfortable you can make a decision with a fairly high degree of certainty that it is a good decision and an acceptable decision.</p><p>In the past at UPS, "big" decisions were made by committee and so everyone's job was to ensure the decision was optimally implemented ... no matter how goober the decision was. </p><p>These days people at Level 18 and especially Level 20 and above have to make decisions on their own with limited input. This is primarily due to lack of people (or resources, as they say in the Corporate world).</p><p></p><p>Different views with different rationalizations but probable not that different in the base emotional feelings about jobs within the new UPS.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Catatonic, post: 1010726, member: 7966"] 1) When I was hired at UPS, like any other company, I realized I was hired to do what was best for the company which would be determined by a chain of command. I have never been directed to do anything immoral or illegal, so that has not been a problem so far nor do I expect it to be a problem in the next 8 months or so before I retire. I have been asked to do things that were neither immoral or illegal but I have been asked to do things I was not comfortable with at which point I pushed back and every single time it has been dropped. 2) This is such a subjective phrase that there is no way to really answer it. I have been treated poorly a few times and I got over it but I remembered the "person"s ... I remembered very well. I was wary and non-supportive of those individuals but always supportive of UPS. 3) I think everybody makes up, embellishes or has selective memory about how well "they" did things long, long ago in a galaxy far away. As an IE Manager, I had contacts all over the US and every time a new District Manager came in talking about how he did it back in "his galaxy". I would make a few calls and invariably the DM was in the "makes up, embellishes or has selective memory" mode. 4) I was never interested in getting promoted beyond the manager level and turned the next level down 3 times ... eventually, you drop off the list. IMO jobs above the manager level are filled with too much stress, dealing with unreasonable expectations and just plain crappy jobs where you are forced into having to make decisions with less and less information. Manager level jobs involve making decisions were you feel fairly comfortable you can make a decision with a fairly high degree of certainty that it is a good decision and an acceptable decision. In the past at UPS, "big" decisions were made by committee and so everyone's job was to ensure the decision was optimally implemented ... no matter how goober the decision was. These days people at Level 18 and especially Level 20 and above have to make decisions on their own with limited input. This is primarily due to lack of people (or resources, as they say in the Corporate world). Different views with different rationalizations but probable not that different in the base emotional feelings about jobs within the new UPS. [/QUOTE]
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