Virtual Time Study

Discussion in 'UPS Discussions' started by gman042, May 15, 2012.

  1. gman042

    gman042 Been around the block a few times

    We are scheduled for a virtual time study tomorrow. What to expect and what to do to insure best possible allowances.
  2. ymelord

    ymelord Active Member

    Just do you route by the methods like you should be doing everyday. Don't worry about your allowances it's managements problem. Screw their allowances.
  3. badpal.

    badpal. avoiding brown kool-aid

    We just had one not too long ago and happy people were few and far between. Your gonna get screwed one way or another. Just do EVERY stop by the methods, and DO NOT SHEET IN THE TRUCK.
  4. bottomups

    bottomups Bad Moon Risen'

    Don't pull into any driveways or parking lots. Walk everything off from the street, even dock stops. Maximize the distance between your package car and delivery point when the stop is completed. Spend extra time in commercial stops looking for sales leads or extra volume.
  5. Brownslave688

    Brownslave688 You want a toe? I can get you a toe.

    Sheet in the truck don't stop complete in the truck!!!! You are supposed to get credit for all those steps you take to the house at least in theory.
  6. 728ups

    728ups offending people on the internet since 1995

    When we had our Virtual Time study done, it consisted of a Tick Tock supervisor viewing each route with Google Earth. The allowances were made from the distance of the stop from the street,and they used the previous weeks records to do the study. Of course in a virtual world there is no traffic,no weather,and each street is flat.

    Dont sweat it,as you'll lose time with this study. It wont make a bit of difference because the dispatcher can change the days minimum/max with the Daily DPS plan. I have been running 130-135 stops for the past year and planning 9 hours and some change . My max has been raised since April and now 140-145 will hardly plan 9 hours.
    Work safe,Work by the methods and don't worry about their time allowances or over allowed time. It gives me the greatest of joys to tell my Oncar that I dont worry about facing discipline for over allowed,but I CAN face Discipline if I dont work safe and by the methods when he tries to tell me i'm 'over-allowed'
  7. Bubblehead

    Bubblehead My Senior Picture

    It's just this simple.
    Don't fall into the trap.
  8. boxboy

    boxboy New Member

    I havent used the new diad yet, soon though, and a virtual time study to follow. If there is no one on the car with you how do they know what your doing inside buildings or if and when your using your handcart
  9. toonertoo

    toonertoo Most Awesome Dog Staff Member

    They dont, its all built in.
    They are so smart they just know.
  10. Jackburton

    Jackburton Gone Fish'n

    They don't, but they like to pretend like they do.
  11. boxboy

    boxboy New Member

    any new chatter about virtual time studies. we are due within the month. any body know how they know you are using your handcart or not.
  12. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    Just before the VTS your center team will affix a barcode to your handcart. When you get to a stop that you need to use the handcart, you scan the barcode on the handcart, load the pkgs, complete the stop, and then rescan the barcode on the handcart when you get back to the pkg car.
  13. Monkey Butt

    Monkey Butt You can call me Chappy Staff Member

    They'll look at the satellite picture so make sure you use a shiny handcart.
  14. beentheredonethat

    beentheredonethat Well-Known Member

    I can't speak for how virtual time studies are done today. But I did do time studies in the past, granted it was decades ago. If I had a driver who did what you suggest and walk off dock stops etc I would spend the extra time to disallow all of that. Also, any ambiguity I would take away from the driver. Note, an easy way to know is usually there is always a customer who says, hey John, why are you parking there when you normally park around the back and use the dock? etc etc. Or just plain common sense of how the driver performed his day. I would also look at the prior days delivery records to see time between stops etc. It's pretty easy to spot where a driver is trying to do things different on the day of the study. If a driver did the methods and treated it as a normal day and when there was ambiguity I would give the driver the benefit of the doubt.
  15. gman042

    gman042 Been around the block a few times

    That never happened for us.
  16. barnyard

    barnyard KTM rider Staff Member

    We gained quite a bit after our VTS. Even though they are their numbers and I don't care, it does make it easier to get an 8 hr day when requested when the numbers are somewhere in the ball park.
  17. upsman2940

    upsman2940 New Member

    Just remember you'll never get less it will always be more!!
  18. Anonymous 10

    Anonymous 10 Guest

    Me either.
  19. Anonymous 10

    Anonymous 10 Guest

    Don't worry they are planning on taking it away as you speak.
  20. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    That's cuz I made it up.