Vote Count

Discussion in 'UPS Union Issues' started by Stink219, Jun 9, 2013.

  1. stink219

    stink219 Well-Known Member

    We have all these posts about vote yes, vote no, pass, fail, percentages, etc. I'm not sure if this was handled already but whether you agree or disagree with the tentative agreement, What do you think the number of voters will be this contract versus last contract? Please leave all of your personal feelings aside.
     
  2. Just like any other election.................Not enough people give a crap!!!Even though their jobs and livelihood depend on it!!!!GO FIGURE!!!.....Go skip a lunch and get into an accident.then cry when you get fired!!!!!!
     
  3. Bagels

    Bagels Family Leave Fridays!!!

    Undoubtedly, the number of votes cast will be higher than the past election. The poor economy / reductions in FT driving jobs has lead to a significantly more senior PT work force, which will lead to more PTers casting votes. The percentage of eligible PTers voting will probably be significantly higher, but still small, and not significant enough to sway the election. Where I'm at, most are worried about the changes to the insurance ... but few are returning their ballots. Two weeks ago I tried to spread the word during break, but many were upset that I interrupted their NBA finals-related conversations.
     
  4. Obamacare..29 1/2 hours fulltime.....UPS 55 hours a week partime??????REALLY!!!
     
  5. stink219

    stink219 Well-Known Member

    Was kinda looking more along the lines of 60K, 70k, 80k. I'm thinking about 78k. Personal feelings aside.
     
  6. realbrown1

    realbrown1 Annoy a liberal today. Hit them with facts.

    last contract was over 70,000. this contract over 90,000 will vote.
     
  7. I think that number is kind of high...! .We have far too many guys who do not follow the contract!!! And even less that care!!All for (me) and crap on you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Just saying!!!
     
  8. Bagels

    Bagels Family Leave Fridays!!!

    Per TDU, about 70,000 votes were cast in 2007. The contract passed by a margin of about 11,000.

    TDU has identified the following locals not likely to vote "yes" on this contract, and their respective 2007 votes in favor of the contract:
    89 (Louisville) 1664-760
    396 (Los Angeles) 1255-678
    623 (Philadelphia) 655-366

    The contracted enjoyed its strongest support in the South (winning by more than 7,000 votes), West (winning by more than 5,000 votes) and upper Midwest (e.g. Milwaukee, Minneapolis; it enjoyed 80-90% margins in these communities). I doubt the margin will change much in the South -- strong conservative, RTW, low cost of living. It'll probably shrink in the West & Midwest.

    Like I said earlier, we'll get more votes returned by PTers, and most will be overwhelmingly "no" (as others were in 2007). But I doubt there's enough "new" votes or persons switching votes to overcome the 11,000 margin.
     
  9. I am voting...NO...3x.....lol
     
  10. UPS Preloader

    UPS Preloader Active Member

    93K and I think it's going to be much closer than most of us think it's going to be.
     
  11. East coast navy

    East coast navy Veteran

    We might see a 30% to 50% (21,000 to 35,000) increase from last contract. I think it's going to be a no vote. I also think we will not see a 2:1 on this one. To many people are :censored2:. Will see if it helps.
     
  12. over9five

    over9five Moderator Staff Member

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  13. Hawfuh Sux

    Hawfuh Sux Old Guard Assassin!

    If 100,000 people vote it will get turned down by a land slide.
     
  14. over9five

    over9five Moderator Staff Member

    That's an evil thought.
     
  15. Hawfuh Sux

    Hawfuh Sux Old Guard Assassin!

    It a realistic thought!
     
  16. UPSgooregonDucks

    UPSgooregonDucks New Member

    TA will fail with 85k votes, but i have a question, if this gets rejected can we get a deal by July 31st?
     
  17. UPS Preloader

    UPS Preloader Active Member

    Depends. If it fails what is it going to take to get the members to vote yes? My guess is that it would not be resolved by July 31 and we would continue to work under the current contact until we could get it resolved.
     
  18. Steward773

    Steward773 Member

    Less than 50% of the membership will vote, more than last contract but still not enough.
     
  19. Inthegame

    Inthegame Well-Known Member

    No.
     
  20. bogeyball

    bogeyball Member

    The Chicago way.... Vote early and vote often, that would be a no!