Wage Progression/Seniority Question

Discussion in 'UPS Union Issues' started by gostillerz, Dec 30, 2011.

  1. gostillerz

    gostillerz Member

    Hi everyone. Quick question.

    I've been a reg temp/cover driver since 11/09, but not sure of my exact seniority date. I've been making $17.25 until today's check where I was raised to $18.45. Shouldn't I be at (or close to) the 2 year pay pay rate? I called up my on car and he told me it goes by days worked, not just by the calendar. I can't find anything in the contract book about it, just goes seniority/one year/two years, etc. If he's right, I'm pretty screwed as besides peak, I only drive maybe twice a month if I'm lucky.

    Anyone know how it works?
     
  2. philmydoyle

    philmydoyle Just file

    ??

    What does reg/ temp mean? so your a cover driver? What region are you in? Cause sounds like a typical screw over by brown
     
  3. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    Your sup is right.
     
  4. gostillerz

    gostillerz Member

    Phil,
    I'm in Mid Atlantic. I call in the morning to see if I'm driving. If I'm not, I can work local sort. I think that's the same as a cover driver, not sure though. But yeah, I get screwed.

    Upstate,
    Well that's really lame. Going at this rate, I won't hit top rate until 2019. 2 guys who went to driving school maybe 3 months before me are at $20.75. Here's what my supplement says under wages:

    Start: $16.10
    Seniority: $17.25
    12 months: $18.45
    24 months: $20.75
    36 months: Top rate

    I can't find anything about "days worked". If I just got the $18.45 as of last week, my seniority date would be in December, right? I started driving in November of 09.
     
    Last edited: Dec 30, 2011
  5. whiskers

    whiskers Member

    If I were you I'd call my business agent, and talk to him/her about this.
     
  6. Funfact

    Funfact Well-Known Member

     
  7. philmydoyle

    philmydoyle Just file

    Sorry for the slow response....Holidays
    but I've been searching for a good answer for you and until i hear back from my people the best advice I can give you is to speak to your driver Union steward. That person should be able to provide you with the information you need. You said you can't get your seniority date is that because they won't provide you with that information? If thats the case let you steward know about that as well
     
  8. Jones

    Jones fILE A GRIEVE! Staff Member

    Article 63, Section 2, Paragraph 3.
    Your fulltime wage progression is determined by days worked as a reg temp not by your hire date, with the caveat that as long as you work at least one day in any week you will get credit for the whole week.
     
  9. menotyou

    menotyou bella amicizia

    In Upstates own district, cover drivers(casuals, temp cover driver-whatever you call it-a pt'er coving a route) who have over two years in are at $25.??.
     
  10. menotyou

    menotyou bella amicizia

     
  11. gostillerz

    gostillerz Member

    Talked to my steward today. He said you need a certain about of days worked for the raise. That really sucks. By driving once or twice a month, it'll take quite a while to get to top rate.
     
  12. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    I guess your sup was right after all.

    Apology accepted.
     
  13. menotyou

    menotyou bella amicizia

    Request to see it in writing in the contract.
     
  14. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    When I was a casual you had to have 36 days in a quarter to get benefits for the following quarter. Why wouldn't this policy extend to pay increases? How fair would it be that an employee who works only one or two days a month get the same pay raises that an employee who works every day does?
     
  15. menotyou

    menotyou bella amicizia

    I imagine the preloaders were wondering that.
     
  16. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    Not bad---a not so subtle dig at my off the street hire status.

    Some of us have to get ready to go to work to help pay for those on the inactive roster. Dave.
     
  17. menotyou

    menotyou bella amicizia

    Shows what you know. My pay comes directly out of BR's operating budget. Thanks for the concern, Nanc.
    Inactive? How can I be inactive, yet have former​ co-workers?
     
  18. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    That is simply a formality.
     
  19. menotyou

    menotyou bella amicizia

    Get to work. I have soaps to watch and finger nails to paint, As you say, someone has to work so I can order a pizza tonite.
     
  20. hondo

    hondo promoted to mediocrity