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<blockquote data-quote="doctor brown 688" data-source="post: 315675" data-attributes="member: 13203"><p>This thread is hilarious! I think reading Article 21 of the National Master might help you (Tie) get heading in the right direction....................... I am rather new to this board and do more reading than giving my input but couldn't resist being sucked into this one. Before I start I would like to say Tie that I hope you don't feel picked on, because I know it's not your fault for being the way you come accross to people on this board.You must sit in the front row at all the management training schools(A.K.A. old time hate school) I know,I know the company says they don't have these any more,(correct me if I'm wrong) but if I recall that is the correct response to this situation followed by a bashing of the old school managers that are left throughout the company(to make the union person feel you are his ally)and then drove home with some b.s. about working together to change and create a better company for tomorrow......blah,blah,blah. I don't want to assume to know what you are thinking, but what I have read here on this board it "appears" that you think non-management (union) workers will buy all your logical and analizing b.s. like you actually come up with the crap yourself.Hello! It does'nt take a scholar to figure it out,especially when you have more than one manager spouting off the same b.s. in local centers everywhere,it just makes you look silly when you try and pass it off to others on this board as your own,although I think one would have to be naive,might be effective on those who haven't heard it before.Some of your posts have been text book word for word used by management to handle the same situation you were trained for.For example this is a quote from this topic thread from you:</p><p></p><p><span style="color: Blue">The boss runs a business that allows you and me the opportunity to buy the wife a nice house to live in and allows us to afford the kids a great lifestyle. </span></p><p><span style="color: Blue"></span></p><p>That quote is old management school textbook word for word as it gets, and something every 10+ year vet has heard. Except you forgot to add the innuendo that you would hate to see them lose all that for failing to perform their duties up to spec.. I could go on and on, shame on me for being sucked into your game but you and I know the posts that you write are for fun,there is nothing more fun to a UPS supervisor than getting a hardcore union employee all worked up.I think some of the others are on to something about you having a steward being a little hard on you lately,seems to me you might be looking for some weaker prey on the B.C..Call me a liar!</p><p> </p><p>To answer altstewie original question, if you are a steward no problem,I would explain to the supe you have reason to believe supes have been working in a certain area and if so you would like to have the extra work and go investigate it.Find someone in that area who will be your eyes and keep track of how long the supe works everyday and grieve for the time.Check with your area B.A. but investigating should be paid for time, if you are still on the clock on your shift.If your not a steward do the same on your break find someone to keep track of time for you and get with your steward to further investigate the situation. Doc</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="doctor brown 688, post: 315675, member: 13203"] This thread is hilarious! I think reading Article 21 of the National Master might help you (Tie) get heading in the right direction....................... I am rather new to this board and do more reading than giving my input but couldn't resist being sucked into this one. Before I start I would like to say Tie that I hope you don't feel picked on, because I know it's not your fault for being the way you come accross to people on this board.You must sit in the front row at all the management training schools(A.K.A. old time hate school) I know,I know the company says they don't have these any more,(correct me if I'm wrong) but if I recall that is the correct response to this situation followed by a bashing of the old school managers that are left throughout the company(to make the union person feel you are his ally)and then drove home with some b.s. about working together to change and create a better company for tomorrow......blah,blah,blah. I don't want to assume to know what you are thinking, but what I have read here on this board it "appears" that you think non-management (union) workers will buy all your logical and analizing b.s. like you actually come up with the crap yourself.Hello! It does'nt take a scholar to figure it out,especially when you have more than one manager spouting off the same b.s. in local centers everywhere,it just makes you look silly when you try and pass it off to others on this board as your own,although I think one would have to be naive,might be effective on those who haven't heard it before.Some of your posts have been text book word for word used by management to handle the same situation you were trained for.For example this is a quote from this topic thread from you: [COLOR="Blue"]The boss runs a business that allows you and me the opportunity to buy the wife a nice house to live in and allows us to afford the kids a great lifestyle. [/COLOR] That quote is old management school textbook word for word as it gets, and something every 10+ year vet has heard. Except you forgot to add the innuendo that you would hate to see them lose all that for failing to perform their duties up to spec.. I could go on and on, shame on me for being sucked into your game but you and I know the posts that you write are for fun,there is nothing more fun to a UPS supervisor than getting a hardcore union employee all worked up.I think some of the others are on to something about you having a steward being a little hard on you lately,seems to me you might be looking for some weaker prey on the B.C..Call me a liar! To answer altstewie original question, if you are a steward no problem,I would explain to the supe you have reason to believe supes have been working in a certain area and if so you would like to have the extra work and go investigate it.Find someone in that area who will be your eyes and keep track of how long the supe works everyday and grieve for the time.Check with your area B.A. but investigating should be paid for time, if you are still on the clock on your shift.If your not a steward do the same on your break find someone to keep track of time for you and get with your steward to further investigate the situation. Doc [/QUOTE]
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