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<blockquote data-quote="Mystakilla" data-source="post: 275171" data-attributes="member: 8337"><p>Yes sir. Seniority is seniority!</p><p> </p><p>And a reply to happybob,</p><p> </p><p>In our region it is 6:1 ratio, and as far as what you said about "parttimers knew these rules from the time they were hired and chose to stay part time.....", i would have to disagree with you in that aspect, i was part time for 13 yrs UNTIL i was even given an oppurtunity to become fulltime. </p><p>When i was hired, if i was given a choice if i wanted to be parttime or fulltime i would have taken fulltime right off the bat but back in the day i knew everyone had to work their way up in this company, except for the few that are hired off the street, i still stand by my orignal hire date as my seniority, thats how it should be and should have always been, as for the people hired off the street, im sorry BUT, the hire ratio should be done with, we shouldnt even have it and no one should be hired off the street straight into a fulltime job.</p><p>I do congratulate them on getting a fulltime job without putting the hardwork in as most of us did but i dont feel its right and thats just my opinion AND i do realize it is different in other regions, maybe it works well in other places but in NEWPA it just doesnt work. I dont know the exact figure but there has been approx. 50 atleast, part timers that have come from the inside to fulltime jobs (feeders) in the last 2-3 yrs. Before that there was never NO openings, now whether it be cause of the older guys are going to be retiring or the volume increased or whatever i do not know BUT i do know the highest guy of this last batch that came out probably has 17 yrs in parttime, and no as i said above its not that they turned it down, we were never offered the opportunity to come out. </p><p>So as an EXAMPLE, the guy with 17 years parttime has a "NEW" seniority date of lets say Jan 1, 06, when he had his training school i am sure the company utilized their 6:1 ratio and hired a guy off the street which in turn would also give the guy off the street a seniority date of Jan 1, 06. Now the next class comes out and a guy with 16 1/2 - 17yrs parttime is below seniority then the guy off the street which means he will pick his vacations before him and also bid routes before him, now can you seriously sit down and honestly think that this is right?</p><p>Im being serious about this issue and do not want any wise comments, obviously if you feel you need to make a wise crack then you do not understand the situation that i just explained to you.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mystakilla, post: 275171, member: 8337"] Yes sir. Seniority is seniority! And a reply to happybob, In our region it is 6:1 ratio, and as far as what you said about "parttimers knew these rules from the time they were hired and chose to stay part time.....", i would have to disagree with you in that aspect, i was part time for 13 yrs UNTIL i was even given an oppurtunity to become fulltime. When i was hired, if i was given a choice if i wanted to be parttime or fulltime i would have taken fulltime right off the bat but back in the day i knew everyone had to work their way up in this company, except for the few that are hired off the street, i still stand by my orignal hire date as my seniority, thats how it should be and should have always been, as for the people hired off the street, im sorry BUT, the hire ratio should be done with, we shouldnt even have it and no one should be hired off the street straight into a fulltime job. I do congratulate them on getting a fulltime job without putting the hardwork in as most of us did but i dont feel its right and thats just my opinion AND i do realize it is different in other regions, maybe it works well in other places but in NEWPA it just doesnt work. I dont know the exact figure but there has been approx. 50 atleast, part timers that have come from the inside to fulltime jobs (feeders) in the last 2-3 yrs. Before that there was never NO openings, now whether it be cause of the older guys are going to be retiring or the volume increased or whatever i do not know BUT i do know the highest guy of this last batch that came out probably has 17 yrs in parttime, and no as i said above its not that they turned it down, we were never offered the opportunity to come out. So as an EXAMPLE, the guy with 17 years parttime has a "NEW" seniority date of lets say Jan 1, 06, when he had his training school i am sure the company utilized their 6:1 ratio and hired a guy off the street which in turn would also give the guy off the street a seniority date of Jan 1, 06. Now the next class comes out and a guy with 16 1/2 - 17yrs parttime is below seniority then the guy off the street which means he will pick his vacations before him and also bid routes before him, now can you seriously sit down and honestly think that this is right? Im being serious about this issue and do not want any wise comments, obviously if you feel you need to make a wise crack then you do not understand the situation that i just explained to you. [/QUOTE]
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