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West PA supplement....VOTE NO AGAIN!
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<blockquote data-quote="happybob" data-source="post: 275213" data-attributes="member: 4724"><p>The issue is just as serious to us full time employees as it is to you part time employees. I don't believe in wise crack, at least not when dealing with serious issues. This issue was brought up back before the company was allowed to have part timers. Before my time, and probably yours. The work currently being performed by part time members was once that of full timers. The company cried poor mouth and asked to employ part time employees in order to save money. The members spoke on this issue, those that were with the company at that time, and said they would not want to see part time employees going full time and having a right to bump them off thier jobs, hense the way its been since then. Many part time employees choose to stay part time, for what ever reason, loss of opportunity to full time slots, don't want the hours, etc., etc. Your reasoning would have a 16 year part time employees, that work 3 maybe 4 hours per day, have the right when they go full time to bump a 15year, 11 month full time employee off his bid route, even though he has put in twice, to three times as many hours of work compared to that part time employee. The part time employee, based on his start time does get to pick his vacations, without having worked the same amount of time as the full time employee. Your 20 years employment gets you just as many vacation weeks as the full timer that put in much more work hours than you have. The fairnes issue you raise can be debated many ways. This issue was setled, before I started, before you started, by the voting members present when it was decided. These folks decided what was in the best interests of the full time employee, that gave away thier work to part time employees hired after they started. Is the system in place fair, at least in the eyes of all employees? No, and never will be. But, it is a system I, and most other full timers, agree with.</p><p> </p><p>Again, I am very glad the opportunity to address this issue is part of the contract process, and the majority will decide.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="happybob, post: 275213, member: 4724"] The issue is just as serious to us full time employees as it is to you part time employees. I don't believe in wise crack, at least not when dealing with serious issues. This issue was brought up back before the company was allowed to have part timers. Before my time, and probably yours. The work currently being performed by part time members was once that of full timers. The company cried poor mouth and asked to employ part time employees in order to save money. The members spoke on this issue, those that were with the company at that time, and said they would not want to see part time employees going full time and having a right to bump them off thier jobs, hense the way its been since then. Many part time employees choose to stay part time, for what ever reason, loss of opportunity to full time slots, don't want the hours, etc., etc. Your reasoning would have a 16 year part time employees, that work 3 maybe 4 hours per day, have the right when they go full time to bump a 15year, 11 month full time employee off his bid route, even though he has put in twice, to three times as many hours of work compared to that part time employee. The part time employee, based on his start time does get to pick his vacations, without having worked the same amount of time as the full time employee. Your 20 years employment gets you just as many vacation weeks as the full timer that put in much more work hours than you have. The fairnes issue you raise can be debated many ways. This issue was setled, before I started, before you started, by the voting members present when it was decided. These folks decided what was in the best interests of the full time employee, that gave away thier work to part time employees hired after they started. Is the system in place fair, at least in the eyes of all employees? No, and never will be. But, it is a system I, and most other full timers, agree with. Again, I am very glad the opportunity to address this issue is part of the contract process, and the majority will decide. [/QUOTE]
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